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Crunchy Frog

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115. What even is a "leftist ideology"?

Mon Sep 15, 2025, 01:04 AM

Sep 2025

Such a thing doesn't exist. It's a label that could mean anything, it's not a descriptive term.

Has he embraced Marxism-Leninism? Stalinism? Trotskyism? FDR's New Deal? Has he been reading the complete works of Noam Chomsky? Did he murder someone in the name of universal healthcare?

Until they at least start saying what the ideology is instead of throwing around meaningless catch phrases, I'm not buying any of it.

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CNN:Gov Cox says suspect "deeply indoctriated in leftist ideology", roomate was romantic partner who was transitioning, [View all] Yorkie Mom Sep 2025 OP

I don't trust anything he or the Trump admin says newdeal2 Sep 2025 #1

The Utah governor is not part of the Trump administration MichMan Sep 2025 #21

LOL.. Neither is any member of Congress... Your point? hlthe2b Sep 2025 #29

I said or, and there is reporting that Trump called him to voice displeasure over his original comments newdeal2 Sep 2025 #47

gotta admire repub ability to do such coordination. dems have no clue on this nt msongs Sep 2025 #111

Exactly, the sickness of the pukes is widespread. They are like aspens, connected at the roots Blues Heron Sep 2025 #52

Same with that asshole Kash Patel. Initech Sep 2025 #97

It seems most indicators suggest that's probably bullshit SSJVegeta Sep 2025 #2

I don't know. Axios said it had 6 sources for it's article. Yorkie Mom Sep 2025 #6

The sources were neighbors who suspected they were together because they lived together SSJVegeta Sep 2025 #9

Some sources were family members. Yorkie Mom Sep 2025 #16

Neighbors thought they might b together because he lived with them. Family confirmed he rented a room SSJVegeta Sep 2025 #24

So, you say... You've not provided proof to anyone who has posted to ask... Why? hlthe2b Sep 2025 #28

You need a link to the Axios article? EdmondDantes_ Sep 2025 #77

They (others here) did not post the assertions in the OP. hlthe2b Sep 2025 #90

Ummm, when did this change? The grandmother said he and the entire family were MAGA...? hlthe2b Sep 2025 #15

I'm wondering too JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #26

Grandmothers and parents don't know everything! He never voted. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #48

Yet neighbors (as cited in this OP) DO? Really? hlthe2b Sep 2025 #49

I knew he had a roommate because the roommate showed LE discord messages. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #50

So your recommended source is Fox news? Really. See the addition in my earlier post. hlthe2b Sep 2025 #54

Did I say that Fox is my recommended source? I said Faux News stated that he was transgender. I said I didn't trust LeftInTX Sep 2025 #55

Watch the video kindly that I linked. I am not suggesting (or meaning to) that you are a Fox proponent but hlthe2b Sep 2025 #58

Wait, so since he sent discord messages to somebody, that somebody must be his roommate? Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #73

I believe the roommate showed the messages to LE. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #85

I'm not trying to be argumentative, but how and where has it been established that he wasn't living at home? Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #95

What indicators are those? EdmondDantes_ Sep 2025 #33

The reports by those outlets - like the case engraving story don't appear to be substantiated SSJVegeta Sep 2025 #35

Well... it wouldn't be the first time in this case alone that multiple outlets got things wrong. yardwork Sep 2025 #65

Try, try again, huh? Prairie Gates Sep 2025 #3

I'm afraid to roll my eyes. no_hypocrisy Sep 2025 #4

I'm no.... Lovie777 Sep 2025 #5

Isn't this a big tone change? Wasn't he calling for avoiding misinformation yesterday? Nittersing Sep 2025 #7

Cox got a call from Trump: sop Sep 2025 #27

Better ban guns then since leftists are everywhere you want to be Blues Heron Sep 2025 #8

They are desperate to score political points C_U_L8R Sep 2025 #10

right down to the left's embrace of gun culture eShirl Sep 2025 #11

"suspects". I suspect Governor Cox is a dick. marble falls Sep 2025 #12

He is. He is a "Yes" man to the Republican party & Church. n/t GentryDixon Sep 2025 #22

No JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #60

A large bag of tiny mushroom headed ones. marble falls Sep 2025 #61

They are telling us these are the facts. bucolic_frolic Sep 2025 #13

Jeez, so Cox has started the trial today, and he's the chief prosecutor? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2025 #14

Please post the info FROM ACTUAL FAMILY--not "neighbors" or that which can't be spoken about... hlthe2b Sep 2025 #17

I lied my ass off to my grandmother all the time. She was my best friend. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #89

Yet your neighbors always knew the truth about what was going on with you, your family, your friends, your hlthe2b Sep 2025 #91

They did not. But we didn't tell our parents all the details about our kids. Why would we? LeftInTX Sep 2025 #92

I don't know what the motivation for this young man's act was. Nor do you. So why do you insist that you do? hlthe2b Sep 2025 #93

What did I say his motivation was? Tell me what I said it was.... LeftInTX Sep 2025 #96

Okay, so be it. Have a good day, LeftInTX hlthe2b Sep 2025 #98

Can anyone remember the last major murder case WSHazel Sep 2025 #18

I see nothing on the CNN site like this. Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #19

CNN link Shrek Sep 2025 #43

ABC News also reporting it Shrek Sep 2025 #20

Reporting what the governor said. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #114

RWers are calling for the roommate to be arrested for... existing. Oneironaut Sep 2025 #23

CK would be proud IzzaNuDay Sep 2025 #63

What is leftist ideology? Johonny Sep 2025 #25

A word Historic NY Sep 2025 #32

A subjective term misanthrope Sep 2025 #53

According to the right, everyone on the left is transitioning these days. sop Sep 2025 #30

Ain't that the truth! Haggard Celine Sep 2025 #45

Sorry, this is BS. He's a Groyper ( which getting significant mentions on X) underpants Sep 2025 #31

Yep. David Shuster made a little-noticed post on X... keep_left Sep 2025 #75

I remember seeing that. That's the story in terms of motive. underpants Sep 2025 #84

Emptywheel: THE WHITE HOUSE BID TO TURN THE CHARLIE KIRK MURDER INTO THEIR ANTI-TRANS JIHAD hlthe2b Sep 2025 #34

This was on MTP not CNN DemocracyWorks Sep 2025 #36

Trump's warning to Cox after Governor's announcement Blue Dotty Sep 2025 #37

Call from tRump Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #38

Thanks for posting. intheflow Sep 2025 #59

Same here Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #71

We have to remember, MAGA was trying to pin this on trans, before D. Spaulding Sep 2025 #39

Let's see. jeffreyi Sep 2025 #44

There are a zillion right-wing gun clubs and militias. yardwork Sep 2025 #94

She's just a fountain of hate, directing it D. Spaulding Sep 2025 #110

He might at the same time ask how Charlie Kirk got radicalized. Heidi Sep 2025 #40

Do you trust the Governor when we can't get the info straight from BootinUp Sep 2025 #41

ANYTHING Any republican says ever is 99% of the time a lie. Eliot Rosewater Sep 2025 #42

CNN will blare whatever Gov. Cocks say.. GreenWave Sep 2025 #46

Trump calls, and Cox starts lying like a rug again. travelingthrulife Sep 2025 #51

All of this is discussed and discounted where appropriate by this just released Meidas Touch video: hlthe2b Sep 2025 #56

So what? I definitely lean left but have no desire to kill anyone. walkingman Sep 2025 #57

But THEY have a desire to kill YOU... regnaD kciN Sep 2025 #103

Would it be rude to ask where and when he was indoctrinated in leftist ideology? Sneederbunk Sep 2025 #62

Where can I get some of this leftist ideology? yardwork Sep 2025 #67

Go to Utah. Apparently runs rampant there. Sneederbunk Sep 2025 #68

I had no idea. yardwork Sep 2025 #70

What even is a "leftist ideology"? Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #115

Is this jackal the best Utah can come up with? He seems more fit to host Entertainment Tonight. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 2025 #64

This is somewhat the same shit I was discussing with a maga online today ificandream Sep 2025 #66

Even if it turns out to be true... yardwork Sep 2025 #69

let's see the note. Funny how quickly the story changed after it was determined that he was likely a groyper. nt ecstatic Sep 2025 #72

"As much as people wish it wasn't or don't want it to be, these are the facts. This is what his family is saying." Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #74

The grandmother said the entire family was BlueKota Sep 2025 #86

Grandparents don't know their grandkid's secrets. Did she know he was into violent video games? LeftInTX Sep 2025 #87

Correct. So I don't know where the OP is basing their claim on that family members agreed with the claims Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #88

may I add Skittles Sep 2025 #102

100% agree on both points. Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #104

As I said VanceFan Sep 2025 #76

What happened to the Groyper connection Ritabert Sep 2025 #78

Didn't i read somewhere that the killer felt Kirk wasn't rightwing extremist ENOUGH? Beartracks Sep 2025 #79

Yep. He was a follower of Nick Fuentes who is busy trying to distance himself from it. Ritabert Sep 2025 #80

Yes, Robinson is an ultra MAGA, who was pissed at CK for criticizing Trump. Doodley Sep 2025 #100

Haven't had time to read through everything, but my question is ALBliberal Sep 2025 #81

They'll probably put up with quite a lot, Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #116

I wonder what the MAGATs promised him. rzemanfl Sep 2025 #82

Prove IT, you Lying POS Cox. nt. Cha Sep 2025 #83

He engraved the bullets with anti-gay and R/W fascist rhetoric, and he was a gun nut. Yet he had leftist ideology? BS! Doodley Sep 2025 #99

why are you so vested in this? Skittles Sep 2025 #101

This will turn out to be 100% false Picaro Sep 2025 #105

Fair to say that he's been indoctrinated in far-right ideology MaineBlueBear Sep 2025 #106

I have two dogs, first a Chihuahua and then a Yorkie. taxi Sep 2025 #107

Republicans will say anything and the MAGAS will run with it. doc03 Sep 2025 #108

No Matter the Shooter's Politics or Sexual Preference MrWowWow Sep 2025 #109

Apparently the Governor's proof that the shooter was "deeply indoctrinated in leftist ideology" Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #112

I'm guessing that the entire thing is a stack of lies. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #113