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moniss

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43. I have no quibble with the idea

Wed Sep 17, 2025, 02:19 PM

Sep 2025

he did it but this "transcript" has serious concerns as to the veracity of how this is laid out. I'm not seeing anywhere that someone at the telecom is swearing to the authenticity and timeline of the texts as being correct. I'm not seeing an affidavit from anybody about it. All I'm seeing is this plunked into the middle of a charging document. Nothing from either of the two people supposedly texting swearing to the authenticity.

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Everyone on DU is expert at something. [View all] yardwork Sep 2025 OP

i think he's an immature poser trying to imitate a "romantic" style of writing to impress his friend jmbar2 Sep 2025 #1

yes it would be very important to get legitimate examples of past writing style. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #10

I keep thinking, Tyler wasn't stupid. He was a straight a student and earned a scholarship. Walleye Sep 2025 #13

What would the motive be for changing his writing style after the murder? Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #15

I don't know, but if it is AI, it's a pretty clumsy attempt Walleye Sep 2025 #26

It is not unusual for a murderer to try use writing style to cover up a crime. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #29

My guess would be #2. pandr32 Sep 2025 #2

Seems to me it's difficult to determine emotions behind texts read by some old monotone investigator. Silent Type Sep 2025 #3

Even under stress people will still exhibit behavior consistent with their typical behavior. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #11

Probably true, but don't think those things come across in texts. Silent Type Sep 2025 #12

There are LE investigators who spend their entire lives evaluating written material. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #16

Do you have a citation from a few on this issue? Silent Type Sep 2025 #17

I am refuting your general comment about evaluation of written material from crime scenes. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #18

When you get a citation from some, I'd like to read them. Silent Type Sep 2025 #20

I doubt experts are going to make public an analysis of Kirk's text messages. Irish_Dem Sep 18 #92

excuse me, but you're thinking NJCher Sep 2025 #23

I'm not talking about doctoring or altering the messages. yardwork Sep 2025 #44

Why would anyone believe anything coming from this administration Keepthesoulalive Sep 2025 #4

Bingo! littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #28

I did notice that. I also don't trust anything coming out of this DOJ. yardwork Sep 2025 #45

The only proof we supposedly have Keepthesoulalive Sep 2025 #50

THANK YOU Skittles Sep 2025 #70

He was sitting in his car nervously waiting for the 'lingering' 'squad car' to leave to see if he could 'retrieve' his still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #5

Exactly. Why would he recount details of the murder while also trying to hide the evidence? It makes no sense. sop Sep 2025 #9

He wasnt in his car -- he was in his 'vehicle'! (typical gen z speak) 70sEraVet Sep 2025 #30

Right? Along with, dude, stop texting every SINGLE detail to me. Sheesh. still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #34

Both sides of the conversation are odd. yardwork Sep 2025 #46

And none of that sounded "romantic" MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2025 #71

Detailed, succinct confessions rarely do "my love" still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #72

Are you flirting with me? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2025 #74

Haha still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #76

Do these "texts" have a date/time stamp? leftstreet Sep 2025 #6

On IHIP today Tom Dyer Sep 2025 #33

The whole thing comes across as pretty damn sketchy to me. Torchlight Sep 2025 #7

This is also the same administration that photoshopped phony gang tattoos... Alice B. Sep 2025 #36

I thought they sounded unnatural but didn't know exactly how to word it. RockRaven Sep 2025 #8

As someone who does re-creation events and grew up with a classical education... haele Sep 2025 #14

kinda' like Patsy Ramsey sounding like a NJCher Sep 2025 #31

It was never an established fact that Patsy wrote that letter. ShazzieB Sep 2025 #59

yeah, I'm well aware of that NJCher Sep 2025 #62

I agree about not diverting the thread. ShazzieB Sep 2025 #63

I agree. MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2025 #73

I had the same thoughts. yardwork Sep 2025 #47

I agree - those texts sound suspiciouly mcar Sep 2025 #19

Bingo Botany Sep 2025 #21

Prior to computers, shredders were used. That way there isn't a shred of evidence. Only evidence shredded. twodogsbarking Sep 2025 #22

My name, yardwork? yardwork Sep 2025 #48

Sure, everyone loves yardwork, it is yard work that they don't. twodogsbarking Sep 2025 #51

Awwwww! yardwork Sep 2025 #53

Keep up the good yard work, yardwork. twodogsbarking Sep 2025 #54

One of the parts that sounded phony to me was senseandsensibility Sep 2025 #24

Yep, that sounded odd to me too blue_jay Sep 2025 #35

Not that I know of senseandsensibility Sep 2025 #41

I call my cats "my love" LearnedHand Sep 2025 #64

I guess slipping, "we're for sure involved romantically," into the text thread proved difficult. still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #69

I would like to know more about the roommate. Kali Sep 2025 #25

Yes, we would need more context and examples. yardwork Sep 2025 #49

I'm no expert in FBI practices, but they are prob reconstructed in the absence of actual texts Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #27

+1 leftstreet Sep 2025 #32

I'm not an expert in FBI speak but this sounds different to me. yardwork Sep 2025 #52

Given that I'm an old reader who has corrected many student papers, I feel qualified to say that allegorical oracle Sep 2025 #37

I have no quibble with the idea moniss Sep 2025 #43

"My love" sheshe2 Sep 2025 #38

I think they were called "bodice rippers" MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2025 #89

Detect if content is AI-generated. (suggestion) usonian Sep 2025 #39

As I said in my post about this last night it moniss Sep 2025 #40

And the roommate never says, "call me!!" Call me right now!!" yardwork Sep 2025 #57

You are so right MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2025 #90

Regardless popsdenver Sep 2025 #42

Thank you. FWIW, lots of posters on Threads yesterday agreed with you. Nt spooky3 Sep 2025 #55

I thought so too LearnedHand Sep 2025 #56

Skepticism is never a bad thing. yardwork Sep 2025 #58

Well there's that LearnedHand Sep 2025 #66

Yeah, we're living in strange times. yardwork Sep 2025 #67

Why did tyler UpInArms Sep 2025 #60

One of the fishiest parts of it, I thought. yardwork Sep 2025 #68

I haven't seen these texts and don't have time to look for them right now. ShazzieB Sep 2025 #61

A DUer posted them in this thread: yardwork Sep 2025 #79

Thanks! ShazzieB Sep 2025 #83

What are the odds of Kirk's assasin being involved with a transgender person? hadEnuf Sep 2025 #65

Interesting that even people on the far right are questioning the veracity of the texts. Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #75

"popular account Catturd" .... haha still-prayin4rain Sep 2025 #78

It's ridiculous, but he is a huge influencer on the right. Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #81

I must disagree with you first assumption Bluestocking Sep 2025 #77

I feel sure that you are! yardwork Sep 2025 #80

Self-awareness? ProfessorGAC Sep 2025 #82

Wow. This is insane. Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #84

Now that I've looked at them... ShazzieB Sep 2025 #85

reads like a prosecutor's dream NJCher Sep 2025 #86

Easy to verify via cellphone provider's SMS server records JoseBalow Sep 2025 #87

Luke Beasley has some interesting things to say about this. ShazzieB Sep 2025 #88

Agree 100% malaise Sep 18 #91

I don't know. I'm not making any conclusions. yardwork Sep 18 #93