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Wiz Imp

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84. Wow. This is insane.

Wed Sep 17, 2025, 05:00 PM

Sep 17

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half the right thinks the messages are fake because it doesn't implicate the trans person, the other half think the shooter is a patsy cus it was israel that killed charlie kirk

i will say the text messages are too perfectly plugging holes for the investigators. unnatural.

hassan is a self described Socialist.

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Candace Owens just dropped a bomb:

“The texts are fake.”

She says the DOJ doctored Tyler Robinson’s messages, selectively edited, cherry-picked, and released without timestamps to frame a narrative.

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Everyone on DU is expert at something. [View all] yardwork Sep 17 OP

i think he's an immature poser trying to imitate a "romantic" style of writing to impress his friend jmbar2 Sep 17 #1

yes it would be very important to get legitimate examples of past writing style. Irish_Dem Sep 17 #10

I keep thinking, Tyler wasn't stupid. He was a straight a student and earned a scholarship. Walleye Sep 17 #13

What would the motive be for changing his writing style after the murder? Irish_Dem Sep 17 #15

I don't know, but if it is AI, it's a pretty clumsy attempt Walleye Sep 17 #26

It is not unusual for a murderer to try use writing style to cover up a crime. Irish_Dem Sep 17 #29

My guess would be #2. pandr32 Sep 17 #2

Seems to me it's difficult to determine emotions behind texts read by some old monotone investigator. Silent Type Sep 17 #3

Even under stress people will still exhibit behavior consistent with their typical behavior. Irish_Dem Sep 17 #11

Probably true, but don't think those things come across in texts. Silent Type Sep 17 #12

There are LE investigators who spend their entire lives evaluating written material. Irish_Dem Sep 17 #16

Do you have a citation from a few on this issue? Silent Type Sep 17 #17

I am refuting your general comment about evaluation of written material from crime scenes. Irish_Dem Sep 17 #18

When you get a citation from some, I'd like to read them. Silent Type Sep 17 #20

I doubt experts are going to make public an analysis of Kirk's text messages. Irish_Dem Sep 18 #92

excuse me, but you're thinking NJCher Sep 17 #23

I'm not talking about doctoring or altering the messages. yardwork Sep 17 #44

Why would anyone believe anything coming from this administration Keepthesoulalive Sep 17 #4

Bingo! littlemissmartypants Sep 17 #28

I did notice that. I also don't trust anything coming out of this DOJ. yardwork Sep 17 #45

The only proof we supposedly have Keepthesoulalive Sep 17 #50

THANK YOU Skittles Sep 17 #70

He was sitting in his car nervously waiting for the 'lingering' 'squad car' to leave to see if he could 'retrieve' his still-prayin4rain Sep 17 #5

Exactly. Why would he recount details of the murder while also trying to hide the evidence? It makes no sense. sop Sep 17 #9

He wasnt in his car -- he was in his 'vehicle'! (typical gen z speak) 70sEraVet Sep 17 #30

Right? Along with, dude, stop texting every SINGLE detail to me. Sheesh. still-prayin4rain Sep 17 #34

Both sides of the conversation are odd. yardwork Sep 17 #46

And none of that sounded "romantic" MorbidButterflyTat Sep 17 #71

Detailed, succinct confessions rarely do "my love" still-prayin4rain Sep 17 #72

Are you flirting with me? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 17 #74

Haha still-prayin4rain Sep 17 #76

Do these "texts" have a date/time stamp? leftstreet Sep 17 #6

On IHIP today Tom Dyer Sep 17 #33

The whole thing comes across as pretty damn sketchy to me. Torchlight Sep 17 #7

This is also the same administration that photoshopped phony gang tattoos... Alice B. Sep 17 #36

I thought they sounded unnatural but didn't know exactly how to word it. RockRaven Sep 17 #8

As someone who does re-creation events and grew up with a classical education... haele Sep 17 #14

kinda' like Patsy Ramsey sounding like a NJCher Sep 17 #31

It was never an established fact that Patsy wrote that letter. ShazzieB Sep 17 #59

yeah, I'm well aware of that NJCher Sep 17 #62

I agree about not diverting the thread. ShazzieB Sep 17 #63

I agree. MorbidButterflyTat Sep 17 #73

I had the same thoughts. yardwork Sep 17 #47

I agree - those texts sound suspiciouly mcar Sep 17 #19

Bingo Botany Sep 17 #21

Prior to computers, shredders were used. That way there isn't a shred of evidence. Only evidence shredded. twodogsbarking Sep 17 #22

My name, yardwork? yardwork Sep 17 #48

Sure, everyone loves yardwork, it is yard work that they don't. twodogsbarking Sep 17 #51

Awwwww! yardwork Sep 17 #53

Keep up the good yard work, yardwork. twodogsbarking Sep 17 #54

One of the parts that sounded phony to me was senseandsensibility Sep 17 #24

Yep, that sounded odd to me too blue_jay Sep 17 #35

Not that I know of senseandsensibility Sep 17 #41

I call my cats "my love" LearnedHand Sep 17 #64

I guess slipping, "we're for sure involved romantically," into the text thread proved difficult. still-prayin4rain Sep 17 #69

I would like to know more about the roommate. Kali Sep 17 #25

Yes, we would need more context and examples. yardwork Sep 17 #49

I'm no expert in FBI practices, but they are prob reconstructed in the absence of actual texts Bernardo de La Paz Sep 17 #27

+1 leftstreet Sep 17 #32

I'm not an expert in FBI speak but this sounds different to me. yardwork Sep 17 #52

Given that I'm an old reader who has corrected many student papers, I feel qualified to say that allegorical oracle Sep 17 #37

I have no quibble with the idea moniss Sep 17 #43

"My love" sheshe2 Sep 17 #38

I think they were called "bodice rippers" MorbidButterflyTat Sep 17 #89

Detect if content is AI-generated. (suggestion) usonian Sep 17 #39

As I said in my post about this last night it moniss Sep 17 #40

And the roommate never says, "call me!!" Call me right now!!" yardwork Sep 17 #57

You are so right MorbidButterflyTat Sep 17 #90

Regardless popsdenver Sep 17 #42

Thank you. FWIW, lots of posters on Threads yesterday agreed with you. Nt spooky3 Sep 17 #55

I thought so too LearnedHand Sep 17 #56

Skepticism is never a bad thing. yardwork Sep 17 #58

Well there's that LearnedHand Sep 17 #66

Yeah, we're living in strange times. yardwork Sep 17 #67

Why did tyler UpInArms Sep 17 #60

One of the fishiest parts of it, I thought. yardwork Sep 17 #68

I haven't seen these texts and don't have time to look for them right now. ShazzieB Sep 17 #61

A DUer posted them in this thread: yardwork Sep 17 #79

Thanks! ShazzieB Sep 17 #83

What are the odds of Kirk's assasin being involved with a transgender person? hadEnuf Sep 17 #65

Interesting that even people on the far right are questioning the veracity of the texts. Wiz Imp Sep 17 #75

"popular account Catturd" .... haha still-prayin4rain Sep 17 #78

It's ridiculous, but he is a huge influencer on the right. Wiz Imp Sep 17 #81

I must disagree with you first assumption Bluestocking Sep 17 #77

I feel sure that you are! yardwork Sep 17 #80

Self-awareness? ProfessorGAC Sep 17 #82

Wow. This is insane. Wiz Imp Sep 17 #84

Now that I've looked at them... ShazzieB Sep 17 #85

reads like a prosecutor's dream NJCher Sep 17 #86

Easy to verify via cellphone provider's SMS server records JoseBalow Sep 17 #87

Luke Beasley has some interesting things to say about this. ShazzieB Sep 17 #88

Agree 100% malaise Sep 18 #91

I don't know. I'm not making any conclusions. yardwork Sep 18 #93