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ShazzieB

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85. Now that I've looked at them...

Wed Sep 17, 2025, 05:26 PM

Sep 17

I honestly don't find the texts all that strange. Different from the way most people that age text? Seems likely, but I lack firsthand knowledge of that, as I don't text with anyone in that age group. But I wouldn't call the language and syntax stilted.

Some of the texts are pretty wordy, but nothing about it sounds fake to me. Not sure what you mean by "internally inconsistent." The punctuation and capitalization are inconsistent, but I don't think most people take a lot of care with such things in texting, especially younger people. And these were presumably written in haste, which probably means neither of them felt like felt like bothering about such things.

I don't see any reason to assume Tyler and his roommate did not write these texts. I suppose they are atypical in some ways, especially Tyler's side of the conversation, but people are all individuals and have their own individual writing styles. I feel like this is probably just Tyler's style. The roommate's comments are much shorter, and I can't tell much about their writing style, but Tyler obviously had a lot on his mind that he needed to covnvey and therefore had more to say.

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Everyone on DU is expert at something. [View all] yardwork Sep 17 OP

i think he's an immature poser trying to imitate a "romantic" style of writing to impress his friend jmbar2 Sep 17 #1

yes it would be very important to get legitimate examples of past writing style. Irish_Dem Sep 17 #10

I keep thinking, Tyler wasn't stupid. He was a straight a student and earned a scholarship. Walleye Sep 17 #13

What would the motive be for changing his writing style after the murder? Irish_Dem Sep 17 #15

I don't know, but if it is AI, it's a pretty clumsy attempt Walleye Sep 17 #26

It is not unusual for a murderer to try use writing style to cover up a crime. Irish_Dem Sep 17 #29

My guess would be #2. pandr32 Sep 17 #2

Seems to me it's difficult to determine emotions behind texts read by some old monotone investigator. Silent Type Sep 17 #3

Even under stress people will still exhibit behavior consistent with their typical behavior. Irish_Dem Sep 17 #11

Probably true, but don't think those things come across in texts. Silent Type Sep 17 #12

There are LE investigators who spend their entire lives evaluating written material. Irish_Dem Sep 17 #16

Do you have a citation from a few on this issue? Silent Type Sep 17 #17

I am refuting your general comment about evaluation of written material from crime scenes. Irish_Dem Sep 17 #18

When you get a citation from some, I'd like to read them. Silent Type Sep 17 #20

I doubt experts are going to make public an analysis of Kirk's text messages. Irish_Dem Sep 18 #92

excuse me, but you're thinking NJCher Sep 17 #23

I'm not talking about doctoring or altering the messages. yardwork Sep 17 #44

Why would anyone believe anything coming from this administration Keepthesoulalive Sep 17 #4

Bingo! littlemissmartypants Sep 17 #28

I did notice that. I also don't trust anything coming out of this DOJ. yardwork Sep 17 #45

The only proof we supposedly have Keepthesoulalive Sep 17 #50

THANK YOU Skittles Sep 17 #70

He was sitting in his car nervously waiting for the 'lingering' 'squad car' to leave to see if he could 'retrieve' his still-prayin4rain Sep 17 #5

Exactly. Why would he recount details of the murder while also trying to hide the evidence? It makes no sense. sop Sep 17 #9

He wasnt in his car -- he was in his 'vehicle'! (typical gen z speak) 70sEraVet Sep 17 #30

Right? Along with, dude, stop texting every SINGLE detail to me. Sheesh. still-prayin4rain Sep 17 #34

Both sides of the conversation are odd. yardwork Sep 17 #46

And none of that sounded "romantic" MorbidButterflyTat Sep 17 #71

Detailed, succinct confessions rarely do "my love" still-prayin4rain Sep 17 #72

Are you flirting with me? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 17 #74

Haha still-prayin4rain Sep 17 #76

Do these "texts" have a date/time stamp? leftstreet Sep 17 #6

On IHIP today Tom Dyer Sep 17 #33

The whole thing comes across as pretty damn sketchy to me. Torchlight Sep 17 #7

This is also the same administration that photoshopped phony gang tattoos... Alice B. Sep 17 #36

I thought they sounded unnatural but didn't know exactly how to word it. RockRaven Sep 17 #8

As someone who does re-creation events and grew up with a classical education... haele Sep 17 #14

kinda' like Patsy Ramsey sounding like a NJCher Sep 17 #31

It was never an established fact that Patsy wrote that letter. ShazzieB Sep 17 #59

yeah, I'm well aware of that NJCher Sep 17 #62

I agree about not diverting the thread. ShazzieB Sep 17 #63

I agree. MorbidButterflyTat Sep 17 #73

I had the same thoughts. yardwork Sep 17 #47

I agree - those texts sound suspiciouly mcar Sep 17 #19

Bingo Botany Sep 17 #21

Prior to computers, shredders were used. That way there isn't a shred of evidence. Only evidence shredded. twodogsbarking Sep 17 #22

My name, yardwork? yardwork Sep 17 #48

Sure, everyone loves yardwork, it is yard work that they don't. twodogsbarking Sep 17 #51

Awwwww! yardwork Sep 17 #53

Keep up the good yard work, yardwork. twodogsbarking Sep 17 #54

One of the parts that sounded phony to me was senseandsensibility Sep 17 #24

Yep, that sounded odd to me too blue_jay Sep 17 #35

Not that I know of senseandsensibility Sep 17 #41

I call my cats "my love" LearnedHand Sep 17 #64

I guess slipping, "we're for sure involved romantically," into the text thread proved difficult. still-prayin4rain Sep 17 #69

I would like to know more about the roommate. Kali Sep 17 #25

Yes, we would need more context and examples. yardwork Sep 17 #49

I'm no expert in FBI practices, but they are prob reconstructed in the absence of actual texts Bernardo de La Paz Sep 17 #27

+1 leftstreet Sep 17 #32

I'm not an expert in FBI speak but this sounds different to me. yardwork Sep 17 #52

Given that I'm an old reader who has corrected many student papers, I feel qualified to say that allegorical oracle Sep 17 #37

I have no quibble with the idea moniss Sep 17 #43

"My love" sheshe2 Sep 17 #38

I think they were called "bodice rippers" MorbidButterflyTat Sep 17 #89

Detect if content is AI-generated. (suggestion) usonian Sep 17 #39

As I said in my post about this last night it moniss Sep 17 #40

And the roommate never says, "call me!!" Call me right now!!" yardwork Sep 17 #57

You are so right MorbidButterflyTat Sep 17 #90

Regardless popsdenver Sep 17 #42

Thank you. FWIW, lots of posters on Threads yesterday agreed with you. Nt spooky3 Sep 17 #55

I thought so too LearnedHand Sep 17 #56

Skepticism is never a bad thing. yardwork Sep 17 #58

Well there's that LearnedHand Sep 17 #66

Yeah, we're living in strange times. yardwork Sep 17 #67

Why did tyler UpInArms Sep 17 #60

One of the fishiest parts of it, I thought. yardwork Sep 17 #68

I haven't seen these texts and don't have time to look for them right now. ShazzieB Sep 17 #61

A DUer posted them in this thread: yardwork Sep 17 #79

Thanks! ShazzieB Sep 17 #83

What are the odds of Kirk's assasin being involved with a transgender person? hadEnuf Sep 17 #65

Interesting that even people on the far right are questioning the veracity of the texts. Wiz Imp Sep 17 #75

"popular account Catturd" .... haha still-prayin4rain Sep 17 #78

It's ridiculous, but he is a huge influencer on the right. Wiz Imp Sep 17 #81

I must disagree with you first assumption Bluestocking Sep 17 #77

I feel sure that you are! yardwork Sep 17 #80

Self-awareness? ProfessorGAC Sep 17 #82

Wow. This is insane. Wiz Imp Sep 17 #84

Now that I've looked at them... ShazzieB Sep 17 #85

reads like a prosecutor's dream NJCher Sep 17 #86

Easy to verify via cellphone provider's SMS server records JoseBalow Sep 17 #87

Luke Beasley has some interesting things to say about this. ShazzieB Sep 17 #88

Agree 100% malaise Sep 18 #91

I don't know. I'm not making any conclusions. yardwork Sep 18 #93