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134. Nonetheless, where is the Dem strategy here?

Fri Sep 19, 2025, 12:51 PM

Sep 2025

The strategy seems to be to just sit there and get pummeled instead of trying to take some initiative.

We had a terrible politically-motivated murder. And the political violence is growing by the day. What is the Dem strategy? What is the Dem message? Where is the opposition? Where is the direct challenge to the Republicans?

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US Senate UNANIMOUSLY passes Remembrance Day Oct 14th for Kirk [View all] Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 OP

Not real happy with this... droidamus2 Sep 2025 #1

I hear you, droid... robbob Sep 2025 #32

So the fuck what? choie Sep 2025 #176

It makes our party look weak and submissive. I'm not sure that voters find those traits appealing. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #53

Weak? vanlassie Sep 2025 #68

99.99% of voters will have no idea such a vote ever even happened. Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #184

Agree completely RVN VET71 Sep 2025 #234

Republicans would be running ads with Kirk's KIDS. Miles Archer Sep 2025 #121

The headline is fake news. At least 50 senators were not in the chamber lapucelle Sep 2025 #253

I'll remember that he was a racist asshat and film flam salesman JT45242 Sep 2025 #2

Best Rebl2 Sep 2025 #10

I'll choose to remember the 1st Amendment. RIP. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #60

Exactly! Rebl2 Sep 2025 #94

Make it a national holiday already - and don't forget to erect a statue for the dead troll dalton99a Sep 2025 #3

"He had the face of a cabbage-patch doll." CrispyQ Sep 2025 #29

I thought he looked a bit like Charlie Brown. Big head. nt Ilsa Sep 2025 #217

Actually- South Park had an episode with a cartoon Charlie Kirk womanofthehills Sep 2025 #240

I believe I saw that episode. Laughed so hard. Looking forward Ilsa Sep 2025 #244

For me, he looks like a Terry Gilliam animation from Monty Python's Flying Circus Montauk6 Sep 2025 #275

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Sep 2025 #35

Sure, why not. Mr. Evil Sep 2025 #45

The best way to deal with this, absolutely! yardwork Sep 2025 #70

They'll probably replace MLK Day with Kirk Day soon Diraven Sep 2025 #120

Right....Let's honor Kirk. democrank Sep 2025 #4

The word "UNANIMOUSLY" used here was probably wrong KS Toronado Sep 2025 #51

The Senate passed the resolution by "unanimous consent" tritsofme Sep 2025 #77

I guess no one wanted to stick their neck out and object given the climate around this shooting. It's like 9/11 all over LymphocyteLover Sep 2025 #112

Our sp called leaders are all bent. Evrytingfinemon Sep 2025 #220

Did a www search on this subject KS Toronado Sep 2025 #122

It passed without objection or "unanimously" in the Senate. tritsofme Sep 2025 #127

The House did NOT vote on the day of remembrance for Charlie Kirk. Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #188

Thank you. I was reaching for the phone to yell at my two. niyad Sep 2025 #223

That's because no Democrats were in the Chamber when the call for unanimous consent was made. Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #186

That is highly implausible, but downright dangerous if true. tritsofme Sep 2025 #264

No they couldn't have done it with just any legislation Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #266

Why do you think the Senate is prohibited from passing legislation by unanimous consent? tritsofme Sep 2025 #269

That's not what I said. What I said is they can't pass legislation with only a handful of people Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #272

There was no quorum: 51 senators were not in the chamber. lapucelle Sep 2025 #260

That does not necessarily mean that fewer than 51 senators were present tritsofme Sep 2025 #263

Sorry to disappoint anyone, but yes it does. lapucelle Sep 2025 #265

The quorum call was rescinded by unanimous consent. tritsofme Sep 2025 #270

Yes, I know. That doesn't mean there was a quorum. lapucelle Sep 2025 #273

Thank you. I'm not sure why people insist on arguing this point Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #271

Fun fact: Schumer's use of a blanket hold on unanimous consent was what slowed confirmation lapucelle Sep 2025 #274

This makes me very angry. travelingthrulife Sep 2025 #5

see post 188 Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #189

I am so angry it's hard to breathe LearnedHand Sep 2025 #6

see post 188 Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #190

"It is bad to be oppressed by a minority, but it is worse to be oppressed by a majority." Lord Acton Ping Tung Sep 2025 #7

Well, poodles got to poodle. The poodles should write a how to book on how to not inspire people to show up and vote.nt ImNotGod Sep 2025 #8

See post 188 Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #191

No can do. I'll be busy celebrating the Rocky Horror Picture Show's 50th anniversary. Heidi Sep 2025 #9

Damn excellent idea Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #13

LOTS of more worthwhile October 14 celebrations! Heidi Sep 2025 #16

Defenders of Ukraine Day. Ada Lovelace Day. National Dessert Day. niyad Sep 2025 #222

YES! Heidi Sep 2025 #228

Good morning, heidi! niyad Sep 2025 #230

50 years? How? hunter Sep 2025 #25

I have no answer except the march of time. Heidi Sep 2025 #49

My daughter used to act out Janet Mossfern Sep 2025 #85

You raised her right! Heidi Sep 2025 #109

Tim curry is doing his autobiography! bedazzled Sep 2025 #149

I can never watch that scene too many times! wackadoo wabbit Sep 2025 #182

We don't have to celebrate it their intended way. Lars39 Sep 2025 #11

Wonderful. Can we have a day of remembrance for Charlie Manson, too? Standards are gone. Vinca Sep 2025 #12

Congressional Democrats did not vote for a Day of Remembrance Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #192

You keep saying, no democrats were present or walked out... do you have a link to support that? questionseverything Sep 2025 #221

I can find no evidence anyone was on the Senate Floor when the resolution Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #235

Finding no evidence they were there is very different from proving they weren't there questionseverything Sep 2025 #237

This reddit comment confirms there were more than 90 Senators absent Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #239

Have you changed from no dems to "two California democrats weren't aware " questionseverything Sep 2025 #242

I'm saying NO DEMOCRATS WERE PRESENT ON THE FLOOR. Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #245

You presented the reddit commenter as proof , not i questionseverything Sep 2025 #248

What name calling? There was no name calling. Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #251

The video doesn't show the entire senate floor , only the podium questionseverything Sep 2025 #254

At least 50 senators were not in the chamber. lapucelle Sep 2025 #243

Cloture was not invoked, and there was no quorum. At least 50 senators were not in the chamber. lapucelle Sep 2025 #241

See this video at the 46 second mark. Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #246

Meanwhile, there are folks roasting Democrats based on inaccurate, right-wing rage bait. N/T lapucelle Sep 2025 #247

There is so much disinformation or misinformation on this thread. Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #255

Congress encompasses both the House and the Senate. It doesn't just mean the House of Representatives. Vinca Sep 2025 #224

The guy who said all Gay people should be stoned to death Eliot Rosewater Sep 2025 #14

Or at least to be balanced, rememberance day for George Floyd AND the other one. flor-de-jasmim Sep 2025 #15

Better: NO remembrance day/celebration the VILE Charlie Kirk. Heidi Sep 2025 #22

see post 192 Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #193

I know. We're so lost. ananda Sep 2025 #17

Yippers... welcome to Orwellian living standards! slightlv Sep 2025 #43

He was a racist, sexist, and homophobic troll Johnny2X2X Sep 2025 #18

It was absolutely fucking not necessary for a single Democrat to support this Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #19

There's basically no argument to be made that it was "necessary" BannonsLiver Sep 2025 #20

Not only do I agree with you Bannons, slightlv Sep 2025 #46

see post 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #195

The day will only have significance for the trolls in the swamp NCDem47 Sep 2025 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author Maru Kitteh Sep 2025 #117

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #194

Well shit. Lets make his birthday a federal holiday and name some institutions Autumn Sep 2025 #21

They could have abstained, been absent or moniss Sep 2025 #23

That is essentially what happened. No one actually cast a vote for the resolution, it passed by unanimous consent tritsofme Sep 2025 #81

They knew it was on the agenda and could have moniss Sep 2025 #130

I suspect some probably were. onenote Sep 2025 #170

They were. No Democrats were present when the call for unanimous Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #183

There was no vote. N/T lapucelle Sep 2025 #102

Stupid! Celebrating the Kirk hate machine is definitely unAmerican. lark Sep 2025 #24

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #196

NO KINGS 2. October 18th - be sure to protest! rurallib Sep 2025 #26

unfuckingbelievable StarryNite Sep 2025 #27

Limbaugh didn't even get this. Sneederbunk Sep 2025 #28

Spineless. DavidDvorkin Sep 2025 #30

If I hadn't already changed my affiliation to non-affiliated, I'd do so today. CrispyQ Sep 2025 #31

Really Hartpi978 Sep 2025 #33

We are living in an evil version of Idiocracy Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #72

The grifting punk BigMin28 Sep 2025 #36

Sleeping with the enemy. littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #37

What are these Democrats so afraid of? milestogo Sep 2025 #38

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #197

Works for me. liberalgunwilltravel Sep 2025 #39

WTF? As a Canadian, I am absolutely disgusted by this move from democrats in the senate. Bev54 Sep 2025 #40

just what i thought. oldinmtdem92 Sep 2025 #118

The perfect day to remind everyone about what a hate-filled monster Charlie Kirk was. Martin68 Sep 2025 #41

Pardon me while I go practice my shocked face. Xavier Breath Sep 2025 #42

Perhaps a cheerleader can remind us that Democrats are doing all that they can Orrex Sep 2025 #44

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #198

I'm in Hell. pdxflyboy Sep 2025 #47

YOU'RE not. But *someone* is. (nt) Heidi Sep 2025 #52

I wouldn't count on our party doing too well in the midterms. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #48

Where's Melissa Hortman's? Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #50

Passed unanimously on June 25th MichMan Sep 2025 #73

She wasn't a promoter of bigotry and she didn't get a special, permanent day of remembrance. Ocelot II Sep 2025 #137

The poster I replied to asked where was the resolution for Hortman? MichMan Sep 2025 #146

It is not a "permanent" day of remembrance. onenote Sep 2025 #171

There is no permanent day of remembrance Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #199

Did it just condemn the political violence? Or was it also an exercise in hagiography? Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #187

The resolution for the day of remembrance was just to declare a one day day of remembrance Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #200

Thanks for the informative answer. Crunchy Frog Sep 2025 #218

Thank you. niyad Sep 2025 #225

Thank you. betsuni Sep 2025 #268

Feel free to go look it up MichMan Sep 2025 #203

Thank you. niyad Sep 2025 #226

I'm disgusted beyond all reason. Shame. Nanjeanne Sep 2025 #54

Horst Wessel Day! CanonRay Sep 2025 #55

Never once passed a vote for the dead kids! Hope22 Sep 2025 #56

Our leadership is lost. Soon to have many fewer to lead, I'm afraid. Whyisthisstillclose Sep 2025 #57

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #202

I can't believe that my MN Senators voted for this obscenity Ocelot II Sep 2025 #58

Why not? They sponsored one several weeks ago that passed unanimously MichMan Sep 2025 #80

Kind of a different thing. Ocelot II Sep 2025 #92

Why did you single out Minnesota representatives? MichMan Sep 2025 #95

Because I live in Minneapolis and was chillingly familiar with the incident. Ocelot II Sep 2025 #98

OK, I've just seen multiple posts from people unaware that the House passed a resolution regarding Hortman weeks ago MichMan Sep 2025 #104

I was aware of the resolution, but it wasn't the same Ocelot II Sep 2025 #136

I suggest you contact your representatives and tell them how angry you are with their vote then MichMan Sep 2025 #142

You're misinformed Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #204

Melissa Hortman didn't promote malevolence... KPN Sep 2025 #110

They (almost certainly) didn't GJGCA Sep 2025 #155

You're right; it wasn't based on a vote, but on unanimous consent - Ocelot II Sep 2025 #156

They didn't Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #201

And Fascism becomes the New Normal Kid Berwyn Sep 2025 #59

Don't waste time on this move to real issues themaguffin Sep 2025 #61

Bullshit. We need to stand for principals. This is submission Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #64

principles. niyad Sep 2025 #227

When I was a kid, maybe fifth grade, someone had written "principal" when the correct word to use was "principle." Xavier Breath Sep 2025 #252

A very good way to remember! niyad Sep 2025 #256

Yeah just like Pelosi said about Epstein fujiyamasan Sep 2025 #140

We have to pick our battles & keeping Kirk in the headlines isn't helpful. FFS. And no this isn't like Pelosi's comment themaguffin Sep 2025 #154

How about an Epstein Files Remembrance Day? n/t Shoeless Louis Sep 2025 #216

Just a reminder! This is who these zealots are honoring!🤬 nwduke Sep 2025 #62

Thanks nwduke. I'll bookmark "Kirk's list" and oasis Sep 2025 #185

I'll reserve my remembrances and praise for Robert Redford wishstar Sep 2025 #63

Why don't we celebrate Hitler's Birthday while we're at it? bif Sep 2025 #65

That's 420 SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #86

Is this a thing JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #66

Every damn year. Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #69

So we undo it JustAnotherGen Sep 2025 #101

FALSE. onenote Sep 2025 #172

This message was self-deleted by its author LeftInTX Sep 2025 #162

This message was self-deleted by its author LeftInTX Sep 2025 #163

Since it's a resolution, that passed via consent I think it's only this year. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #163

It's pretty meaningless to be honest Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #206

I can't even find words for how perverted this is. 3catwoman3 Sep 2025 #67

Next, these misinformed assholes some_of_us_are_sane Sep 2025 #71

Dun(kirk) JTOL Sep 2025 #74

I'll celebrate Abstractartist Sep 2025 #75

Pure politics. Meaningless crap. Hopefully it will divert attention from a racist pig back to lostincalifornia Sep 2025 #76

It's fucking terrible politics, are you serious Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #87

I didn't say it was good. I just speculated what I thought their motivation was. lostincalifornia Sep 2025 #93

I also question the accuracy of the OP. No way Sanders would have voted for this. lostincalifornia Sep 2025 #160

At least 50 senators were not in the chamber when the call for unanimous consent went out. lapucelle Sep 2025 #250

Thank-you lapucelle. Another misleading headline from the MSM. lostincalifornia Sep 2025 #259

What "stunt"? At least 50 senators were not in the chamber when the motion for unanimous consent was called. lapucelle Sep 2025 #249

Our party has no leadership Mr. Sparkle Sep 2025 #78

I'm done - zero $$ to the Democratic Party from me. They don't have my back. NoMoreRepugs Sep 2025 #79

Yep fuck their pathetic begging emails fujiyamasan Sep 2025 #141

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #208

I just shouted down the phone in Sen. Heinrich and Lujan's offices. BadgerMom Sep 2025 #82

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #210

ARE YOU FING SERIOUS? Alice B. Sep 2025 #83

They made a saint out of a racist shock jock LS0999 Sep 2025 #84

I find this incredibly disconcerting angrychair Sep 2025 #88

I don't know what to say any more Jarqui Sep 2025 #89

Damned cowards. THey should have boycotted the vote, but more importantly ... Bluetus Sep 2025 #90

There was no vote. It passed by unanimous consent. lapucelle Sep 2025 #106

Nonetheless, where is the Dem strategy here? Bluetus Sep 2025 #134

This message was self-deleted by its author fujiyamasan Sep 2025 #174

Fuck that noise. I'll not be supporting an action that supports the false narrative about what kind of person Kirk was. Solly Mack Sep 2025 #91

He's not worthy of such an honor. patphil Sep 2025 #96

Weenies!! Walleye Sep 2025 #97

Have you lost your f.cking minds? Buddyzbuddy Sep 2025 #99

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #212

It is an annual? But it does seem to indicate where this nation is at this point in time. LiberalArkie Sep 2025 #100

see post 206 Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #211

And if Paul Pelosi would have died from being BEAT WITH A HAMMER TO THE HEAD Bengus81 Sep 2025 #103

wth? regardless of cause of death, awful humans do not deserve this. kerouac2 Sep 2025 #105

At the very least the Democrats should have ADDED ALL school shootings to bluestarone Sep 2025 #107

This message was self-deleted by its author Dem2theMax Sep 2025 #108

Have we heard anything angrychair Sep 2025 #111

I'm surprised the Magat crowd doesn't want a national holiday for him. walkingman Sep 2025 #113

Maybe call it Bullies and Cowards Day Stinky The Clown Sep 2025 #114

Oct 14 is party time. Let's boogie. twodogsbarking Sep 2025 #115

When the go low, we give them a Holiday !!! leftstreet Sep 2025 #116

There is no Holiday. Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #213

Grrrrr Smilo Sep 2025 #119

Theirs not to reason why, Theirs but to do and die: Into the valley of Death twodogsbarking Sep 2025 #123

Good Lord! Two weeks ago 70% of the country couldn't have picked this guy out of a lineup. rsdsharp Sep 2025 #124

A Democrat should have at least stood and recited Kirk's own words from the well of the Senate, sop Sep 2025 #125

WTAF? bluescribbler Sep 2025 #126

Horst Wessel Day Pachamama Sep 2025 #128

As you said. Dawson Leery Sep 2025 #129

😡 spanone Sep 2025 #131

Right before the next No Kings Marches so left will be blamed for breaking the FAKE 'PEACE' blm Sep 2025 #132

The headline is inaccurate rage bait, and the Economic Times is a right wing source lapucelle Sep 2025 #133

NO DEMOCRAT VOTED FOR THE RESOLUTION because no vote was taken. lapucelle Sep 2025 #135

Mincing cowardly words are we? Typical cover for nonsense Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #143

Wait, do I still stand accused of *slandering* the the right-wing, fake news source? lapucelle Sep 2025 #167

Who are you calling "cowardly", Mr Werp? Cha Sep 2025 #205

It appears that it's cowardly to call out right wing, fake news sources and the lies lapucelle Sep 2025 #238

That's a Good Motto to have.. It goes Well Cha Sep 2025 #262

The financial times is hardly right wing fujiyamasan Sep 2025 #144

The OP cites the Economic Times, not the Financial Times. I corrected my headline. lapucelle Sep 2025 #161

The Economic times is a sensationalistic Indian newspaper fujiyamasan Sep 2025 #166

I stand accused of *slandering* the Economic Times for calling out the inaccuracy of its rage bait headline. lapucelle Sep 2025 #169

see posts 188 & 192 Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #214

Inaccurate yet you provide no evidence than to slander the source? Mr.WeRP Sep 2025 #147

To begin with, it was a resolution, not a bill, and no roll call vote was taken. lapucelle Sep 2025 #152

It seems very unlikely. I doubt Sanders voted for this, and also other Senate Democrats also lostincalifornia Sep 2025 #159

Boo, boo, boo, boo, Hotler Sep 2025 #138

WTF Blue Owl Sep 2025 #139

The way the party is doing fujiyamasan Sep 2025 #145

Dispiriting La Coliniere Sep 2025 #148

It will be a good day, set aside, to reflect upon.... LudwigPastorius Sep 2025 #150

What the holy hell? They expect us to vote for them? Joinfortmill Sep 2025 #151

This will go down in the annals of history as being even more consequential than... LudwigPastorius Sep 2025 #153

I assume they worked across the aisle day and night to get that landmark legislation passed Bluetus Sep 2025 #175

Ugh.... sakabatou Sep 2025 #157

Hate it, but DownriverDem Sep 2025 #158

Remember RETHUGS are figuring out what we hate most. THEN bluestarone Sep 2025 #165

Shameful. Passages Sep 2025 #168

Point of clarification. It's an abomination, but its not a law and its not permanent. onenote Sep 2025 #173

Senate Democrats did not vote unanimously for the Republican's Charlie Kirk Day stunt Quiet Em Sep 2025 #177

Disgusting. mdbl Sep 2025 #178

AND on Oct., 18th US citizens plan 2,000+ NO KINGS protests! BigmanPigman Sep 2025 #179

But will they honor his last wish? usonian Sep 2025 #180

Should play some of his greatest clips Historic NY Sep 2025 #181

Garbage In EQUALS Garbage Out MrWowWow Sep 2025 #207

I quit, thanks for nothing. dem4decades Sep 2025 #209

Can't believe all the angst over a stupid resolution MichMan Sep 2025 #215

Yeah, but... onenote Sep 2025 #232

BOO! HISS! IzzaNuDay Sep 2025 #219

Will they force employers to give workers the Emile Sep 2025 #229

No. It doesn't force anyone to do anything. onenote Sep 2025 #231

Hmmm lonely bird Sep 2025 #233

This is fucking stupid DenaliDemocrat Sep 2025 #236

Celebrate Remberance Day for the One and Only. Orange Asshole Day on June 14th, too. Donman Sep 2025 #257

My remembrance will be 'thank God and grayhound your GONE'. republianmushroom Sep 2025 #258

Sorry. I wouldn't be lowering my flag. Even if I had one. GoodRaisin Sep 2025 #261

I'll be sitting on the toilet taking a dump that day. durablend Sep 2025 #267

Hope we can take this off our calendars later. I would hate to have to look at this very year. flying_wahini Sep 2025 #276

Unanimous consent is nothing more than rzemanfl Sep 2025 #277