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In reply to the discussion: We just don't have the votes [View all]adam_vermont
(22 posts)7. Yes, it is painful. At some point we have to make a point.
And the r's are not negotiating at all, and they can't be trusted. They aren't spending the money that is in law from last year, illegally. So how can you make any deal? So the move is to cave again and prove that we are weak, even when we are using the only power we have? They don't have the votes either, unless they vote to change the rules. It's time to break things...things are out of control. Funding this bastard of an executive is unethical on its face. They lie about everything, threaten Democrats with military violence calling us terrorists, commit atrocities. Screw em. Let them break it even further. The citizens who still aren't paying attention need to see that things are not normal. We need to shut it down.
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Well finally the gop has actually shut down the government. They all must be high.
Clouds Passing
Oct 2025
#1
We tried to negotiate. The republicans said no. And then the republicans shut down the government.
Iggo
Oct 2025
#2
It's not a popular opinion because you are telling us to cave. Gee, what a surprise that would be unpopular
Blues Heron
Oct 2025
#4
The end game is not to increase healthcare payments for millions of Americans, including many republicans.
Bev54
Oct 2025
#40
And your answer is to just capitulate and then the republicans would continue to push for more and more
Bev54
Oct 2025
#46
As much as I respect Schumer and Jeffries, we're not winning the propaganda battle...
SKKY
Oct 2025
#12
Yep, we don't "hold the cards." I'd hold a big press conference announce we are going to vote for extension because
Silent Type
Oct 2025
#24
No thanks, I'll pass on that. Republicans own this shit show It's. All. On. Them.
Autumn
Oct 2025
#25
They're struggling to pass funding. That landslide mandate they keep talking about exist.
Walleye
Oct 2025
#28
I'm just afraid that they will intentionally keep the government shut down to let the orange turd do a coup
kimbutgar
Oct 2025
#31
We won't have "the votes" 7 weeks from now either. Last time we gave up they gave 38+ billion to ICE.
Klarkashton
Oct 2025
#32
It's not about anger. It's about ensuring reasonably priced access to health care.
Ms. Toad
Oct 2025
#50
I agree with you entire assessment, except one thing needs to be added. The Democrats must get
lostincalifornia
Oct 2025
#51
From what I've heard so far, their message is stronger than any I've heard recently. n/t
Ms. Toad
Oct 2025
#53
The problem is that when the enhanced subsidies were included in the American Rescue Plan they had an expiration date.
MichMan
Oct 2025
#58