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BannonsLiver

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20. You've sadly lost the plot.

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Wed Oct 1, 2025, 11:43 AM

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We just don't have the votes [View all] Pototan Oct 1 OP

Well finally the gop has actually shut down the government. They all must be high. Clouds Passing Oct 1 #1

And place the blame for the shutdown on us Pototan Oct 1 #3

Polls show that the public is blaming republicans not democrats. Bev54 Oct 1 #39

We tried to negotiate. The republicans said no. And then the republicans shut down the government. Iggo Oct 1 #2

It's not a popular opinion because you are telling us to cave. Gee, what a surprise that would be unpopular Blues Heron Oct 1 #4

Eventually, we have to provide the votes Pototan Oct 1 #5

Why? There are enough republicans to pass this Scrivener7 Oct 1 #10

A Fillabuster Pototan Oct 1 #19

So the solution is easy: VMA131Marine Oct 1 #33

Except they want a shut down Pototan Oct 1 #34

The end game is not to increase healthcare payments for millions of Americans, including many republicans. Bev54 Oct 1 #40

And if the Republicans ignore that Pototan Oct 1 #44

And your answer is to just capitulate and then the republicans would continue to push for more and more Bev54 Oct 1 #46

This is not a viable tactic Pototan Oct 1 #47

In your opinion. Bev54 Oct 1 #49

The end game is not to give up Democratic votes for nothing VMA131Marine Oct 1 #43

They are the ones that need the votes. Tbone421 Oct 1 #6

Both sides are short on votes. That's why it requires compromise EdmondDantes_ Oct 1 #9

The republicans own this government. Scrivener7 Oct 1 #11

That's a lot more certain of public opinion than I am EdmondDantes_ Oct 1 #14

Republicans. Own. This. Government. Scrivener7 Oct 1 #18

They. Literally. Do. Not. Because. Of. The. Filibuster. EdmondDantes_ Oct 1 #27

Republicans do not have enough votes even if every one of them vote for it. Groundhawg Oct 1 #29

There are not 60 Republicans in the Senate Kaleva Oct 1 #38

Fuck that. REPUBLICANS entirely own this. W_HAMILTON Oct 1 #26

We offered to negotiate. They said no. They shut down the government. Iggo Oct 1 #17

Yes, it is painful. At some point we have to make a point. adam_vermont Oct 1 #7

I agree with all that Pototan Oct 1 #8

As much as I respect Schumer and Jeffries, we're not winning the propaganda battle... SKKY Oct 1 #12

The media is not pushing the Democratic narrative but the repuke one kimbutgar Oct 1 #37

Pardon my French (or don't) Maru Kitteh Oct 1 #13

Would tend to agree with you dwayneb Oct 1 #15

More is needed quaker bill Oct 1 #16

You've sadly lost the plot. BannonsLiver Oct 1 #20

No thank you. H2O Man Oct 1 #21

I respect your opinion Pototan Oct 1 #22

I think Mr. trump's shitdown will assist Dems in the mid-terms Torchlight Oct 1 #23

Yep, we don't "hold the cards." I'd hold a big press conference announce we are going to vote for extension because Silent Type Oct 1 #24

No thanks, I'll pass on that. Republicans own this shit show It's. All. On. Them. Autumn Oct 1 #25

They're struggling to pass funding. That landslide mandate they keep talking about exist. Walleye Oct 1 #28

So are you saying we will have the votes in 7 weeks? Raven123 Oct 1 #30

No. Maybe we can get the extension Pototan Oct 1 #36

What would be your negotiating strategy? Raven123 Oct 1 #41

Again, we don't have the votes Pototan Oct 1 #45

I'm just afraid that they will intentionally keep the government shut down to let the orange turd do a coup kimbutgar Oct 1 #31

Bombing states intelpug Oct 2 #54

I'm sure there are some magaloon pilots who would obey dear leaders orders ! kimbutgar Oct 2 #60

We won't have "the votes" 7 weeks from now either. Last time we gave up they gave 38+ billion to ICE. Klarkashton Oct 1 #32

I can just hear the braying of "caving" and "spelunking" and "treason" already Hekate Oct 1 #35

When the Republicans held their votes Pototan Oct 1 #48

Democratic Party affiliation is growing.... LyfeTimeDem Oct 1 #42

It's not about anger. It's about ensuring reasonably priced access to health care. Ms. Toad Oct 1 #50

I agree with you entire assessment, except one thing needs to be added. The Democrats must get lostincalifornia Oct 1 #51

From what I've heard so far, their message is stronger than any I've heard recently. n/t Ms. Toad Oct 1 #53

I hope so. lostincalifornia Oct 2 #55

The problem is that when the enhanced subsidies were included in the American Rescue Plan they had an expiration date. MichMan Oct 2 #58

That is not the part I was commenting on. Ms. Toad Oct 2 #62

It is already nearly impossible for D to win elections because of heavy gerrymandering, and with this supreme court in2herbs Oct 1 #52

If you think caving will help our chances to win upcoming elections... regnaD kciN Oct 2 #56

So you are saying edhopper Oct 2 #57

How is shutting down the government going to prevent that Pototan Oct 2 #59

The budget you say the Dems should help pass edhopper Oct 2 #61

I agree with you Rebl2 Oct 2 #63