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WhiskeyGrinder

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15. There's a group of people near where I live who are part of a Christian sect (which still has its roots in Sweden, as an
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 09:46 AM
Oct 2025

aside.)

The kids go to public school but are subject to cultural restrictions that aren't surprising -- no TV or popular music, dating only within the sect, not a high priority for educating girls (many of whom get pregnant and drop out before graduation), etc. It's tough to see bright kids growing up in an environment where you know they'll be restricted in beliefs and experiences, particularly the girls; having a full-time job is discouraged and their role is to get married and have kids. It's difficult to leave the sect -- I know of a couple, but it's arduous, and often simply much easier to stay in it.

The married women are not allowed to wear pants in public. They can wear leggings with tunics, but not pants. Does banning tunics in this free and open society help them or harm them? Does it help or harm the wider community? Is the tunic the problem? Is any of it?

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What are your thoughts on this? yardwork Oct 2025 #1
I detest Ebba Busch and KD (Christian Democrats) in re many of their stances, but I am very open to this public ban, Celerity Oct 2025 #2
I go back and forth on this. yardwork Oct 2025 #4
Oh, I sure hear you as a feminist myself, but also get yardwork's pov... electric_blue68 Oct 2025 #23
I see burquas in Los Angeles area ..not often though.the black gloves the whole bit. BlueWaveNeverEnd Oct 2025 #24
Oh, wow. Yes, serious inequality Reminder!... electric_blue68 Oct 2025 #25
I agree. I was in Indonesia during Ramadan. Phoenix61 Oct 2025 #3
You can see the faces... Mike Nelson Oct 2025 #5
I doubt that women in burqas are allowed to drive. yardwork Oct 2025 #6
Yes, that is also an issue... Mike Nelson Oct 2025 #10
To me, a ban prohibiting an item of clothing is as oppressive as a requirement forcing someone to wear that item. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #7
disagree nt Celerity Oct 2025 #8
Should it be legal to wear a ball gag in public? yardwork Oct 2025 #9
Pretty sure there aren't laws against those specific examples; if someone was mad about it, maybe it could fall under WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #11
I'll bet you can think of an answer to that. yardwork Oct 2025 #14
I would agree if both sexes were required by their religion to go by the same rules. efhmc Oct 2025 #20
I have listened to many women from Muslim families JI7 Oct 2025 #12
correct, it would not ban the hijab, only the burqa and niqab Celerity Oct 2025 #13
There's a group of people near where I live who are part of a Christian sect (which still has its roots in Sweden, as an WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #15
not a valid comparison Celerity Oct 2025 #16
Why not? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #17
Because of the extreme levels of oppression, submission, and dehumanisation that flow from the burqa & niqab. Celerity Oct 2025 #19
How is the government forbidding someone from wearing an item of clothing that otherwise meets all cultural/legal WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #21
It is only a ban (a ban that already exists in multiple nations across the globe) of two very specific types of dress, Celerity Oct 2025 #22
In general those "slippery slope" arguments turn out not to be valid. yardwork Oct 2025 #26
Good, they should be obamanut2012 Oct 2025 #18
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