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Faryn Balyncd

(5,125 posts)
Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:51 AM Dec 2012

"Chained CPI" Americans (across the board) GET IT: [View all]




"In order to strike a budget deal, would you accept Changing the way Social Security benefits are calculated so that benefits increase at a slower rate than they do now or is this something you would find unacceptable?"

The December Washington Post/ABC poll :


60% of all adults oppose (60% to 34%)
57% of registered voters oppose (57% to 36%)
68% of Democratic voters oppose (68% to 26%)
54% of Republican voters oppose (54% to 40%)
56% of Independents oppose (56% to 36%)
65% of liberals oppose (65% to 29%)
57% of moderates oppose (57% to 38%
58% of conservatives oppose (58% to 33%)



It would appear that Americans across the board can see with their own eyes the reality that returning Congressman Alan Grayson pointed out in his recent DU post: that the current CPI calculation methodology ALREADY UNDERSTATES inflation.

It would appear Americans are unwilling to be fooled again by those who believe they can dress up the slashing of earned benefits as "technical" accounting adjustments.

That scam has been long ago exposed: A few years after the Boskin Commission slashed SS benefits by rigging CPI to understate inflation, Greg Mankiw, chairman of George W. Bush’s Council of Economic Advisers from 2001-2003, seeing no reason at the time to continue the charade, publicly admitted the truth everyone already knew: “The debate about the CPI was really a political debate about how, and by how much, to cut real entitlements.”

On the issue cutting Social Security by means of again cooking the CPI calculation books, Americans across the board are in agreement, with the House Progressive Caucus, with the AFL-CIO, the AARP , MoveOn.org, Disabled American Veterans.





This appears to be a defining moment.

The Republican strategy is clear: Demand that DEMOCRATS initiates, pass, and OWN the issue of slashing Social Security. Regardless of how much Republican leaders may want to cut Social Security, through chained CPI or otherwise, they are unwilling to be the party to propose and own the issue. Their recent plan avoided "chained CPI" like the plague. The Republican strateg is to manipulate Democrats into betraying their base.




Will a disgraced & defeated Republican Party now succeed in manipulating Democrats to do such a thing?


Will we learn from the past?


In 1997, as the Boskin Commission's fraudulent rigging of CPI was on the verge of implementation, The Atlantic published an eerily prescient "How to Re-Write Economic History" which illustrates the profound attraction that cooking the books has for politicians:



“Given the questionable intellectual foundations of the Boskin Commission's findings, the commission's high standing in Washington requires explanation. Both Democrats and Republicans have been keen to see its recommendations adopted, because they provide a potentially uncontroversial way to achieve deficit reduction. Raising taxes is unpopular, and little discretionary government spending is left to be cut. Restating the CPI as a measure of cost-of-living inflation offers an easy way to lower Social Security payments through reduced COLAs and raise tax revenues through reduced exemptions. The hope is that the CPI can be presented as an apolitical and boring technical issue that voters won't notice.

“Revising the CPI would get the Republicans off the hook of deficit reduction, while simultaneously advancing the interests of business. This, however, would occur at the expense of working Americans and the elderly. Revising the CPI would get the Democrats off the same hook, but at the cost of another shameful desertion of the constituencies they claim to represent.


- - - - - - - - - - - - http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/97apr/econhist.htm
















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Thanks. I'm disturbed though that even as many as more than a third of Americans approve. Cleita Dec 2012 #1
Amen Cleita, people just don't plan about their future, it seems. onecent Dec 2012 #17
More conservatives oppose chained-CPI than moderates?!! KansDem Dec 2012 #2
Moderates like "process" Recursion Dec 2012 #22
One percent is a rounding error in the calculation. JayhawkSD Dec 2012 #40
Ainnit amazing that the majority of Americans side Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #3
I think the fact that Americans are not being fooled, as was intended btw, by sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #32
We're humming the same tune. Information has escaped Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #34
They are pissing on our legs and telling us it is raining Evergreen Emerald Dec 2012 #4
Oh, I feel sure that Americans will GET IT Fumesucker Dec 2012 #5
Still think we live in a democracy? Doctor_J Dec 2012 #6
That's the plan: You got to vote(maybe) and now get out of our way, 98% scummies. byeya Dec 2012 #8
We've already endured one reworking of the CPI to our detriment and it's clear that byeya Dec 2012 #7
+1000 abelenkpe Dec 2012 #10
Yes, that is the most amazing thing. To see Democrats, although I know they sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #36
Hell yes... daleanime Dec 2012 #14
With you, byeya. Thanks. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #25
Thank you! byeya Dec 2012 #31
Unfortunately, the people are powerless to prevent it from happening. NorthCarolina Dec 2012 #9
Learned helplessness on the part of Dems does not help. Get on the Skidmore Dec 2012 #11
Well actually, NorthCarolina Dec 2012 #13
You do not believe your own cynicism, if you did you'd not have called and signed at all. Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #15
Where there is no hope, NorthCarolina Dec 2012 #20
Well, one thing that might change the picture you see, the threat which will be sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #37
Get on the phone. As I did at least twice weekly to urge the public option? merrily Dec 2012 #16
"Contact" the Whitehouse. xtraxritical Dec 2012 #26
Call the White House 202-456-1111 grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #30
Yes...and call Leader Pelosi's office at (202) 225-4965 Faryn Balyncd Dec 2012 #33
CPI has always been rigged BlueStreak Dec 2012 #12
Both Republicans and Third Way Democrats want this and that is by far merrily Dec 2012 #18
What is at work, is a way to make it "ambiguous" to the public NorthCarolina Dec 2012 #19
Only Elected Republicans - 54% of Republicans Voters Against MannyGoldstein Dec 2012 #23
What have you doen with 3rd Way Manny??!?!? Doctor_J Dec 2012 #27
Du rec. Nt xchrom Dec 2012 #21
Well said. JDPriestly Dec 2012 #24
k&R midnight Dec 2012 #28
Call the White House 202-456-1111 !!!!! grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #29
I understand the desire to be heard NorthCarolina Dec 2012 #35
From an inside source: they are fully aware, they don't care, they are elitists, but they can be grahamhgreen Dec 2012 #38
It's unacceptable to me. Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #39
K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2012 #41
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