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11. I see the midterm mailers already ...

Reply to leftstreet (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:19 PM

Nov 10

DEMOCRATS HAD A CHANCE TO SAVE YOUR OBAMACARE AND CHICKENED OUT.

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We Just Giving Up? [View all] angrychair Nov 10 OP

I see the midterm mailers already leftstreet Nov 10 #1

I see the midterm mailers already ... usonian Nov 10 #11

DACO Seinan Sensei Nov 10 #46

IMO there is no way to spin this to avoid a conclusion of major strategic failure. RockRaven Nov 10 #2

One could argue that when the bill comes due and millions see the result, Dems are in a good position AZJonnie Nov 10 #21

I think the 3rd option SHOULD BE the democratic message: Volaris Nov 10 #36

Your idea falls generally under my 2nd option :) AZJonnie Nov 10 #40

major strategic failure? Pffft. This was sabotage. A knife in the back. LuvLoogie Nov 10 #38

I want to know why these 10 Democratic cowards were not outed before this capitulation. Bozvotros Nov 10 #50

I would hope not Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 10 #3

I cannot angrychair Nov 10 #9

He has done it twice now (not to mention ACB's nomination) usonian Nov 10 #14

I'm right there with you. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 10 #15

Agreed people Nov 10 #17

The only reason the Senate exists USS_Dauntless Nov 10 #49

Kick orangecrush Nov 10 #4

No. But let's not kid ourselves.... Happy Hoosier Nov 10 #5

More than that Cirsium Nov 10 #10

Spot on Cirsium Marie Marie Nov 10 #32

Totally agree. Happy Hoosier Nov 10 #72

The worst thing Cirsium Nov 10 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 10 #57

Just warming up. H2O Man Nov 10 #6

7 Dems. 1 Ind. niyad Nov 10 #7

Ridiculous. Stop it. QueerDuck Nov 10 #8

You stop it Cirsium Nov 10 #12

Oh good grief. I'm doing no such thing. I know that it can be difficult to face reality... QueerDuck Nov 10 #22

No one said you are the enemy Cirsium Nov 10 #54

No. I'm attacking nobody. I'm the messenger telling the truth that is hard to accept. QueerDuck Nov 10 #61

You are not a victim Cirsium Nov 10 #67

Again... I forgive you. QueerDuck Nov 10 #68

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 10 #13

Are you ignoring my point angrychair Nov 10 #16

The shutdown was a stupid idea to start with edisdead Nov 10 #19

That will not be the story - watch and see. lark Nov 10 #27

It's clear to me that the expectations were unrealistic to begin with. Therefore... QueerDuck Nov 10 #20

I didn't create that expectation angrychair Nov 10 #24

I never said you did. It's all politics. They were also hoping for a better outcome... QueerDuck Nov 10 #25

I'm not rewarding them angrychair Nov 10 #29

They made no promises, they had goals, but this time it failed. Yet you expected victory. These are your expectations... QueerDuck Nov 10 #30

Food VS Healthcare EarthAbides Nov 10 #34

Now vs later. We are not "in charge" and this was a battle we were always going to lose. Always! QueerDuck Nov 10 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author QueerDuck Nov 10 #44

The ACA is mortally wounded, this *was* the fight to save it, and our champions folded like cheap suits 0rganism Nov 10 #41

Again... we were NEVER going to win this fight. Never. QueerDuck Nov 10 #43

We'll never have more leverage to continue the ACA funding than we *had* on Saturday 0rganism Nov 10 #51

No we didn't. It was an illusion. A fantasy. QueerDuck Nov 10 #52

We'll never know now, will we? 0rganism Nov 10 #55

No... "most Democrats" are not indulging in this type of self-destructive behavior... QueerDuck Nov 10 #60

OK, we'll see more of what the polls say RSN, but from what I'm seeing so far it's not looking good for Schumer's 8 0rganism Nov 10 #63

DU is a microcosm and does not represent... QueerDuck Nov 10 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author 0rganism Nov 10 #70

Ah, so DU "does not represent the greater world that understands political realities", very nice. 0rganism Nov 10 #71

If democrats win back one or both SocialDemocrat61 Nov 10 #53

IF. Used to be a "when", now, thanks to the senate's stupidity, it's definitely an "if". 0rganism Nov 10 #58

It's always an if SocialDemocrat61 Nov 10 #64

Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!?! Fiendish Thingy Nov 10 #18

Great flick. I only saw it ONE time... in an actual theater. QueerDuck Nov 10 #39

"The Senate Democrats literally shut down the government..." Patton French Nov 10 #23

Yeah, Moses just said he would not bring the ACA vote to the House floor. lark Nov 10 #26

And it will then be 100% the GOP's fault. That's a win. beaglelover Nov 10 #31

Then what? BannonsLiver Nov 10 #59

There wouldn't have been a vote in the House Red Mountain Nov 10 #35

K&R spanone Nov 10 #28

I haven't but I have given up on our senators to have a spine nt Javaman Nov 10 #33

I can say it any other way other than berksdem Nov 10 #42

Not all senate democrats SocialDemocrat61 Nov 10 #45

Oh look! A reasonable voice. Thank you. But... sadly, you'll be drowned out by a chorus of irrational hatred. QueerDuck Nov 10 #47

The Impotent Eight taught the Republicans a lesson....... Escape Nov 10 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 10 #56

No. We are not giving up. yellow dahlia Nov 10 #62

Good comments angrychair Nov 10 #65

Ezra is a great communicator. Eloquent writing and cogent summary. yellow dahlia Nov 10 #66