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angrychair

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29. I'm not rewarding them

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 03:46 PM

Nov 2025

For creating a crisis and failing to achieve the whole point of why they did it in the first place.

I'm just supposed to go "no big deal" and reward them for what they did by supporting them

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We Just Giving Up? [View all] angrychair Nov 2025 OP

I see the midterm mailers already leftstreet Nov 2025 #1

I see the midterm mailers already ... usonian Nov 2025 #11

DACO Seinan Sensei Nov 2025 #46

IMO there is no way to spin this to avoid a conclusion of major strategic failure. RockRaven Nov 2025 #2

One could argue that when the bill comes due and millions see the result, Dems are in a good position AZJonnie Nov 2025 #21

I think the 3rd option SHOULD BE the democratic message: Volaris Nov 2025 #36

Your idea falls generally under my 2nd option :) AZJonnie Nov 2025 #40

major strategic failure? Pffft. This was sabotage. A knife in the back. LuvLoogie Nov 2025 #38

I want to know why these 10 Democratic cowards were not outed before this capitulation. Bozvotros Nov 2025 #50

I would hope not Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2025 #3

I cannot angrychair Nov 2025 #9

He has done it twice now (not to mention ACB's nomination) usonian Nov 2025 #14

I'm right there with you. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #15

Agreed people Nov 2025 #17

The only reason the Senate exists USS_Dauntless Nov 2025 #49

Kick orangecrush Nov 2025 #4

No. But let's not kid ourselves.... Happy Hoosier Nov 2025 #5

More than that Cirsium Nov 2025 #10

Spot on Cirsium Marie Marie Nov 2025 #32

Totally agree. Happy Hoosier Nov 2025 #72

The worst thing Cirsium Nov 2025 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #57

Just warming up. H2O Man Nov 2025 #6

7 Dems. 1 Ind. niyad Nov 2025 #7

Ridiculous. Stop it. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #8

You stop it Cirsium Nov 2025 #12

Oh good grief. I'm doing no such thing. I know that it can be difficult to face reality... QueerDuck Nov 2025 #22

No one said you are the enemy Cirsium Nov 2025 #54

No. I'm attacking nobody. I'm the messenger telling the truth that is hard to accept. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #61

You are not a victim Cirsium Nov 2025 #67

Again... I forgive you. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #68

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2025 #13

Are you ignoring my point angrychair Nov 2025 #16

The shutdown was a stupid idea to start with edisdead Nov 2025 #19

That will not be the story - watch and see. lark Nov 2025 #27

It's clear to me that the expectations were unrealistic to begin with. Therefore... QueerDuck Nov 2025 #20

I didn't create that expectation angrychair Nov 2025 #24

I never said you did. It's all politics. They were also hoping for a better outcome... QueerDuck Nov 2025 #25

I'm not rewarding them angrychair Nov 2025 #29

They made no promises, they had goals, but this time it failed. Yet you expected victory. These are your expectations... QueerDuck Nov 2025 #30

Food VS Healthcare EarthAbides Nov 2025 #34

Now vs later. We are not "in charge" and this was a battle we were always going to lose. Always! QueerDuck Nov 2025 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author QueerDuck Nov 2025 #44

The ACA is mortally wounded, this *was* the fight to save it, and our champions folded like cheap suits 0rganism Nov 2025 #41

Again... we were NEVER going to win this fight. Never. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #43

We'll never have more leverage to continue the ACA funding than we *had* on Saturday 0rganism Nov 2025 #51

No we didn't. It was an illusion. A fantasy. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #52

We'll never know now, will we? 0rganism Nov 2025 #55

No... "most Democrats" are not indulging in this type of self-destructive behavior... QueerDuck Nov 2025 #60

OK, we'll see more of what the polls say RSN, but from what I'm seeing so far it's not looking good for Schumer's 8 0rganism Nov 2025 #63

DU is a microcosm and does not represent... QueerDuck Nov 2025 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author 0rganism Nov 2025 #70

Ah, so DU "does not represent the greater world that understands political realities", very nice. 0rganism Nov 2025 #71

If democrats win back one or both SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #53

IF. Used to be a "when", now, thanks to the senate's stupidity, it's definitely an "if". 0rganism Nov 2025 #58

It's always an if SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #64

Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!?! Fiendish Thingy Nov 2025 #18

Great flick. I only saw it ONE time... in an actual theater. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #39

"The Senate Democrats literally shut down the government..." Patton French Nov 2025 #23

Yeah, Moses just said he would not bring the ACA vote to the House floor. lark Nov 2025 #26

And it will then be 100% the GOP's fault. That's a win. beaglelover Nov 2025 #31

Then what? BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #59

There wouldn't have been a vote in the House Red Mountain Nov 2025 #35

K&R spanone Nov 2025 #28

I haven't but I have given up on our senators to have a spine nt Javaman Nov 2025 #33

I can say it any other way other than berksdem Nov 2025 #42

Not all senate democrats SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #45

Oh look! A reasonable voice. Thank you. But... sadly, you'll be drowned out by a chorus of irrational hatred. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #47

The Impotent Eight taught the Republicans a lesson....... Escape Nov 2025 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #56

No. We are not giving up. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #62

Good comments angrychair Nov 2025 #65

Ezra is a great communicator. Eloquent writing and cogent summary. yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #66