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MineralMan

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20. Whenever discriminatory behavior or actions aim at any particular group,

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Wed Nov 12, 2025, 11:49 AM

Nov 2025

It's almost impossible to oppose that behavior without talking about the particular group. It is precisely that group identity that is being attacked. While we might be able to agree that "fair treatment for all" is the goal, we must deal with specific incidents of unfair treatment as specific incidents. You cannot separate the identity or description of those being discriminated against and oppose that specific discrimination.

So, it's no wonder that you cannot find a way. There isn't one.

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When a group in power oppresses another group because of its identity, it's impossible to fight it without naming it, WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2025 #1

Whiskey Grinder - "Why are you trying to control someone else's identity?" LAS14 Nov 2025 #18

It's none of your business how other people describe themselves. yardwork Nov 2025 #21

. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2025 #25

I (white woman) think I have come to the conclusion that the politically rational thing to do Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #2

Same here. Black women save our democracy over and over. yardwork Nov 2025 #3

White America has been doing identity politics Keepthesoulalive Nov 2025 #4

All I can think of, too. LAS14 Nov 2025 #5

Why is that totally ineffective? yardwork Nov 2025 #9

Why would they stop just because I asked them to? nt LAS14 Nov 2025 #12

So why are you asking the victims to stop complaining? yardwork Nov 2025 #15

I'm not asking the victims to stop complaining. They have to complain. LAS14 Nov 2025 #19

Why? yardwork Nov 2025 #23

Minorities can't fix your problems Keepthesoulalive Nov 2025 #14

How about we stop calling discrimination "identity politics" and call it discrimination. Quiet Em Nov 2025 #6

I was referring to "identity politics" as what people are forced... LAS14 Nov 2025 #13

What. yardwork Nov 2025 #16

I agree with WhiskeyGrinder's questions but I'll be even more pointed. yardwork Nov 2025 #7

Response to Yardwork LAS14 Nov 2025 #27

You're so close to asking the right question leftstreet Nov 2025 #29

Identity politics is a rightwing framework LearnedHand Nov 2025 #8

I never thought of it as right wing. I just thought of it as... LAS14 Nov 2025 #28

There was never an off-ramp for identity politics leftstreet Nov 2025 #10

It does not follow Torchlight Nov 2025 #11

Where did you get "ignore" from my post? LAS14 Nov 2025 #30

You call it both "a trap" as well as a "handy tool for discourse" Torchlight Nov 2025 #33

Oh brother obamanut2012 Nov 2025 #17

Whenever discriminatory behavior or actions aim at any particular group, MineralMan Nov 2025 #20

Thanks for addressing my question! LAS14 Nov 2025 #31

You know what also divides us? Racism. Happy Hoosier Nov 2025 #22

Except black Americans were left out Keepthesoulalive Nov 2025 #24

That's the point. Happy Hoosier Nov 2025 #32

Anything that isn't 100% about lifting up straight, white, right wing, Bettie Nov 2025 #26