Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

General Discussion

tinrobot

(11,937 posts)

21. True. Without a revolution, there would not be a US/Canadian border

Reply to Fil1957 (Reply #17)

Thu Nov 20, 2025, 07:47 PM

Nov 20

But I wonder if the westward expansion would have happened in the same way.

Would France still have sold the Louisiana Purchase? Would we have still acquired Texas and California from Mexico?

Interesting to ponder.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

23 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Two difficult things covered (so far) in Ken Burns' "American Revolution" [View all] TygrBright Nov 20 OP

Yeah.. Takes quite a bit of the luster off the "morally pure" motivations that some have abscribed to hlthe2b Nov 20 #1

Thanks for reminding me that Trump gets to preside over our 250th Birthday. I remember the Bicentennial very well and it artemisia1 Nov 20 #7

i shudder on the fact that u know who will preside over that . AllaN01Bear Nov 20 #11

I've said it before - I don't think they, the FF, really understood what they were creating. Solly Mack Nov 20 #2

Thank you canetoad Nov 20 #3

Alexander Hamilton would be a Trumper obamanut2012 Nov 20 #4

I've only watched the first episode...I took notice of those two specific narratives. pecosbob Nov 20 #5

I'm surprised you're surprised... appmanga Nov 20 #13

Land hungry indeed catchnrelease Nov 20 #14

When you come from a continent where it's nearly impossible to own land... tinrobot Nov 20 #19

Tonight's episode is entitled 'The Soul of All America.' elleng Nov 20 #6

Yes, we have more than a few ghosts in our closet. Biophilic Nov 20 #8

I'm really liking this series Bayard Nov 20 #9

extremely well said! and on points not generally well known or understood. brava ! -(nt)- stopdiggin Nov 20 #10

The smartest thing the King/Parliament could have done, give them (us) a vote in Parliament. 3Hotdogs Nov 20 #12

Funny, you answered the question anyone might have cachukis Nov 20 #15

A third one is how violent the colonists were. El Supremo Nov 20 #16

I've heard it said that if we lost the revolution, or there was no revolution every thing would be SO different. We'd Fil1957 Nov 20 #17

To be clear, I'm firmly pro-Revolution, and glad it happened, and glad we won. TygrBright Nov 20 #20

I, like many who've grown up in the U.S. recieved a thorough indoctrination in school about how great the revolution Fil1957 Nov 20 #23

True. Without a revolution, there would not be a US/Canadian border tinrobot Nov 20 #21

One other thing I forgot to mention, we would be united with Canada. We'd eventually become an "independent" country Fil1957 Nov 20 #22

If the continent of America was much closer to England than 3,000 miles, OR ended at the Appalachians, there would have Fil1957 Nov 20 #18