Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

moniss

(8,561 posts)
4. Right around the time of the overturn of Roe I suggested
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 04:46 PM
Monday

that because pregnancy can permanently damage the health of or kill a woman that sperm should be looked at as a potential hazard and much greater responsibility/liability be placed on the source of that sperm. Yes in a consensual situation it takes two to tango but the results of a pregnancy, good or bad, have never been shared 50/50 and that has needed to change for a very long, long time. As part of that change one thought I felt needed to be implemented is that if a woman was misled into a sexual relationship by a man and subsequently became pregnant that a penalty be imposed for using fraud and placing her in a hazardous position that she would have avoided had the man been truthful.

In other words men would have to be responsible for their sperm in more ways than just paternity/child support. The current system, as a result of years of women having no rights, has given us the current situation where the hazardous effects of pregnancy are largely and completely on the shoulders of the woman despite that pregnancy requiring an equal interaction. Allowing men off the hook for the full measure of their responsibility/liability has more or less been codified in the society and we all know that society at large and legally still says the woman "got pregnant" and places the Scarlet P so to speak while making no requirement of the man the sperm came from except child support.

One thing I suggested is that when the woman has to go for doctor visits that the man the sperm came from must go as well. Equal responsibility. I went even further and suggested that if the woman suffers morning sickness then the man the sperm came from should be made to have induced nausea. I know that sounds extreme to some but why is it only the woman who should experience all of these things when it was supposedly "two to tango"? In other words just because the "dance" ended doesn't mean the woman should pay nearly all of the bill for the band.

Perhaps if we did these things men would look at the release of their sperm as having consequences beyond writing a check. Certainly women can and do face consequences way beyond potentially giving birth and raising the child.

Recommendations

7 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

They are also trying to take away women's right to vote... CousinIT Monday #1
I've been yelling about this for years... slightlv Monday #2
Right around the time of the overturn of Roe I suggested moniss Monday #4
I went further than you did in your options... slightlv Monday #11
Right. Scott Alan Swaggerty Wednesday #23
Recommended. H2O Man Monday #3
Good Beatles reference and good advice. nt moniss Monday #5
I had just H2O Man Monday #7
A MUST READ OP malaise Monday #6
Yet, luckily they have done it all in the dumbest way possible with the dumbest people they could have... Ol Janx Spirit Monday #8
How monumentally stupid is it to cut your own nose off your face slightlv Monday #12
Racism is a helluva drug LymphocyteLover Tuesday #18
True Scott Alan Swaggerty Wednesday #24
Great Description Of How Low We Have Sunk FrankTC Monday #9
Freedom is nothing left to lose. Dan Monday #10
Well, Dan... between the medical bills this month slightlv Monday #13
Or if they did here, they quietly agreed with you 😃 Clouds Passing Tuesday #15
K&R Solly Mack Monday #14
We are witnessing the extremes corporations and billionaires are willing to go to dlk Tuesday #16
it's a race between the clearly demon's declining health and them getting all the shit they want done. They are so LymphocyteLover Tuesday #17
On election night, when the outcome was increasingly clear, Alice B. Tuesday #19
The real Anti-Anericans... purr-rat beauty Tuesday #20
Absolutely! Scott Alan Swaggerty Wednesday #25
Land Of The Free gfarber Tuesday #21
K&R Scott Alan Swaggerty Wednesday #22
Un doing this will take decades. yourout Wednesday #26
Maga constantly blames Biden. They should be reminded. Walleye Wednesday #27
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»So here we are after less...»Reply #4