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AZJonnie

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5. If immigrants are "stealing the American Dream" then every baby born is doing the same

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Fri Dec 12, 2025, 03:56 PM

Dec 12

At it's most fundamental level his argument amounts to "the more people there are in the USA, the worse it makes it for everyone else".

Which then means that every child born is likewise stealing the American Dream.

By the way, there's absolutely (added on edit: nothing) noble about purposefully triggering the nativist/tribalist impulses that evolution conferred upon our species. It takes no skill, just a nefarious willingness to exploit it for personal gain and unearned power.

I would add that a significant component of Christ's message, as laid out in The Bible, is clearly the opposite of Vance's here. Jesus' message, rather, was that "good" actions were those that were inherently contrary to obeying our most base, animal-like instincts.

JD obviously never got the memo

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JD Vance calls mass migration 'theft', gets told Usha 'go back to India' [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 12 OP

Funny... Native Americans have felt this way about "mass migrations" lapfog_1 Dec 12 #1

Yup. OldBaldy1701E Dec 13 #46

I can't believe the nerve of him to keep saying these nasty things about immigrants. Diamond_Dog Dec 12 #2

He's a Republican. Aristus Dec 12 #4

They're more like pets he is tolerating... for now. ananda Dec 12 #6

or CARE what they think Skittles Dec 12 #20

TRUE DAT!! lrucks1952 Dec 13 #48

you nail it right there Skittles Dec 13 #57

I would not doubt that. For someone who graduated from Yale, he is really stupid. Escurumbele Dec 12 #28

STOP BEING NICE lrucks1952 Dec 13 #49

biden being nice to magas anti-repub Dec 13 #54

If His Wife Stays With Him MissouriDem47 Dec 12 #16

Or she values being adjacent to power more than anything else. nt Shipwack Dec 13 #42

I'm sure they all must be thinking Erikkka might be up for the job instead IronLionZion Dec 12 #17

Kick dalton99a Dec 12 #3

If immigrants are "stealing the American Dream" then every baby born is doing the same AZJonnie Dec 12 #5

Then where are the Americans lining up for those "immigrant jobs"? SouthBayDem Dec 12 #33

This is indeed another great retort! AZJonnie Dec 12 #35

Another meaningless canetoad Dec 12 #7

Unless it involves intimate relations with a couch PghTiny Dec 13 #50

I guess JD hasn't gotten enough 'couch sex' lately...... Jack Valentino Dec 12 #8

Does Vance agree with Trump that immigrants are poisoning the blood of America? Norrrm Dec 12 #9

Trump's mother and paternal grandfather were immigrants. Irish_Dem Dec 12 #10

Problems can be solved without being violent to innocent people and then attempting to justify it. twodogsbarking Dec 12 #11

Time to send Donny back to Scotland IronLionZion Dec 12 #12

THE HAGUE!!!!!!! BurnDoubt Dec 12 #15

And send Stephen Miller back to a shtetl in Belarus Seinan Sensei Dec 13 #40

Oooo, those horrid POSITION PAPERS maxsolomon Dec 12 #13

Gee, my great-grandparents came here in the "mass migration" in the early 20th C.... viva la Dec 12 #14

This from a man who CHANGED HIS NAME!!!!! BurnDoubt Dec 12 #18

The American Dream is a D-R-E-A-M, vd dunce! Most of us live in real reality! Clouds Passing Dec 12 #19

It all makes sense if you translate things. Aussie105 Dec 12 #21

"A future Trump administration?" SergeStorms Dec 12 #22

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Now we can be sure nothing will change if trump kicks the proverbial bucket. C Moon Dec 12 #26

The In-Laws should have sent him rat-poison a long time ago.... Bread and Circuses Dec 12 #27

VD Chance 100% doesn't like his wife uponit7771 Dec 12 #29

MAGA hates women in general NickB79 Dec 12 #30

Right, don't see too many MAGA cultist loving their spouse uponit7771 Dec 12 #32

Will every official with a foreign-born spouse please raise their right hand? usonian Dec 12 #31

Vance "to compile with DJT I'm going to deport my wife and kids." Jacson6 Dec 12 #34

Jeezus, for an educated guy, he's dumb as a rock. Joinfortmill Dec 12 #36

Typical hypocrite MAGAt. Martin68 Dec 12 #37

Not that long ago he was telling Eloon not to fire the magot in Doge who said Bengus81 Dec 13 #51

Probably sleeping in separate bedrooms like the fat orange imbecile and Melanoma wolfie001 Dec 12 #38

He's the one who sleeps on the couch... Justice matters. Dec 13 #52

"Couch is favorite!" wolfie001 Dec 13 #62

Mass migration has been the hallmark of Americn History since Europeans started coming here. patphil Dec 12 #39

Stupid asshole doesn't understand that the American Dream is FOR immigrants! BlueSpot Dec 13 #41

him and muskrat, and thiel... they only want WHITE immigrants. nt Justice matters. Dec 13 #53

JD should divorce Usha and marry Candace Owens jfz9580m Dec 13 #43

My grandparents immigrated to the US from Europe to live the American Dream Martin Eden Dec 13 #44

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Amazing, how Republicans.. Escape Dec 13 #47

Vance is a vault of hate. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 13 #55

kinda like mass migration of europeans to north america? ZDU Dec 13 #56

What is the dem response going to be as this gets more extreme? flamingdem Dec 13 #58

maybe a good dem response would be: "stop being such an asshole!" orleans Dec 13 #59

To Vance yes but he's just repeating maga red meat flamingdem Dec 13 #61

Well, Barron isnt an anchor baby as Trump was born here. But FU J.D. Callie1979 Dec 13 #60