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PCIntern

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Sat Dec 13, 2025, 08:00 AM Saturday

Well, I'm back from my cruise and [View all]

have of course made some (very unoriginal) observations about humanity in America.

Please allow me to preface this by saying that I am a veteran cruiser primarily because I thoroughly enjoy the metaphysical experience of leaving land and all the issues which I had to face in my younger years which plague me to this day: family dysfunction, career issues, bad political landscape, and the seemingly endless tragedies unfolding nearly everywhere, reported breathlessly by the media. The nihilistic carefree consumption of alcohol, not to get inebriated because I have a very high tolerance for that, but because it was socially acceptable to begin drinking at 9 A.M. and I could do that with no negative judgements, was my way of flipping the bird at my regimented, very sober daily lifestyle on land.

So I’m a pro at this and came to some not-so-new conclusions during this particular trip:

Gluttony combined with a peculiar form of narcissistic denial has created a whole class of morbidly obese individuals who needed to travel around the ship by electric scooter. One very nice lady to whom I spoke was telling me that she thought she could navigate the ship by walking but that the 900+ foot vessel was beyond her capabilities. And she was right about that: I am certain she weighed more than 350 pounds and was on her third large plate of breakfast food from the buffet. The platters each contained huge amounts of carbohydrates with syrup and as a “cherry on top” many strips of bacon, and not the crispy kind. She admitted she was overeating but “that’s what this is for!”, and I smiled back. She was clearly in Heaven. And she was not alone: there were hundreds of these scooters and similar individuals driving them all over, and as an aside, there were a significant number of vehicular accidents involving “pedestrians”, some fairly serious.

If you’ve ever been on a cruise ship of the giant variety you know that the visual field is one of elongation: in many places, the corridor narrows nearly to a vanishing point and if you looked down the line in the buffet or waiting to go to a show in the giant theater, or embarkation, it is emblematic of our era. Look at similar photos from the 1970’s: a whole different appearance of individuals. And please, many of these people were lovely: friendly, kind, interesting, appropriately inquisitive. But medically, I feel for them and their families. I myself am somewhat overweight but look positively svelte in this context.

The other thing which has always amazed me about America and I’m certain most of the rest of the world is the extreme consumption of alcohol. I previously stated here ton DU that I enjoy social drinking to an extent and in one cruise day I might have a total of 7 or 8 cocktails over an 18 hour day. (If you think that’s extreme, I understand and by the way, just so you know, I may have five alcohol-based drinks in a two week period normally, maybe not even that many.). Some people whom I observed had perhaps 25-30 drinks daily and were clearly severely impaired but “functional” in the sense that they could carry on a conversation and didn’t fall off the barstool. These are the folks who consume a fifth a day easily. Frightening. They go on cruises because one can purchase a plan with no limit relatively inexpensively. The list price for 20 drinks on the ship if you didn’t have the plan would be $300 assuming ordinary brands, not medium or top shelf daily. The package for 12 days which included five premium dinners at their specialty restaurants was $750. The dinners alone, if you went out to similar restaurants would be $400-500. I would say that I probably got $2000-2500 worth of “product” because you can ask for very good brands with no additional charge.

I mention these things because you will never ever hear anyone in media remark that the consumption of an addictive, mind-altering substance is measured locally by railroad tanker car volumes, and nationally by volumes which would be retained by the Hoover Dam. It is nearly incomprehensible but the only way you can really process the import of this aspect of our society is to be imprisoned with 4000 people on a ship. It is jaw-dropping. One full trailer of the 53 foot variety delivered with replacement liquor for each cruise when the ship returns to port.

And yes, we had a great time onboard and at the ports in the Eastern Carribbean and NOT ONE PERSON DISCUSSED ANYTHING POLITICAL (even when we saw the aircraft carrier Gerald R Ford anchored in St Thomas). It was great to take a breather from this nightmare in which we are living. Now it’s back to reality! 😢😢😢😢😢

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Interesting. Thanks. flying rabbit Saturday #1
It's been twenty years since I've been on a cruise. The number one reason is because I try to eat healthily. Intractable Saturday #2
Gluttony is among the seven deadly sins bucolic_frolic Saturday #3
Sounds like the movie Wall-e! Pucks mom Saturday #4
Right? Cosmocat Saturday #6
Welcome back! tavernier Saturday #5
There are gates and guards around the White House but they fail to contain the inmates. usonian Saturday #7
I'm glad you were able to get away from it all and enjoy the elements! Hope22 Saturday #8
As someone else remarked, it sounds like the movie Wall-E brought to life. GoneOffShore Saturday #9
That was very interesting NJCher Saturday #10
I love them PCIntern Saturday #11
I had to read this for a second time NJCher Saturday #12
Thx for sharing your rather depressing (but not surprising) NewHendoLib Saturday #13
Recommended movie: "Triangle of Sadness" jmbar2 Saturday #14
I'm gonna take a look but I'm gonna say PCIntern Saturday #15
My sister tried to talk me into a cruise awhile back... jmbar2 Saturday #16
I've never seen a brawl in many many cruises... PCIntern Saturday #21
Ok found it on Netflix and Prime. mountain grammy Saturday #47
The trailer is hilarious.. now I'm looking for it. Thanks. mountain grammy Saturday #44
i love cruising..we did Holland America as it was cozier and fewer kiddos samnsara Saturday #17
We've always traveled independently by train, then renting a car. surfered Saturday #18
Now that really appeals to me.. mountain grammy Saturday #48
What cruise line was this? Aristus Saturday #19
NCL... PCIntern Saturday #20
Thanks. Aristus Saturday #23
Glad you were able to escape and enjoy some politics-tree time!! Nittersing Saturday #22
Good writing! CommonHumanity Saturday #24
Thank you from my heart. PCIntern Saturday #40
I beg to differ CommonHumanity Saturday #51
Your observational humor is always treat to read. harumph Saturday #25
I have never been on a cruise, and never will be on one most probably, but to me, I don't have to go anywhere to be... NNadir Saturday #26
The only cruises I would be interested in are river cruises lonely bird Saturday #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Ocelot II Saturday #28
Fascinating. Thanks for sharing. Auggie Saturday #29
That sounds like my idea of Hell, although the getting-away part is tempting. Ocelot II Saturday #30
That's exactly how I feel about cruises. llmart Saturday #37
Ditto! mountain grammy Saturday #49
That was interesting, eye-opening. Liberal In Texas Saturday #31
I was on the Norway in the 80's PCIntern Saturday #42
I've been on several cruises and haven't seen that many people on scooters. MIButterfly Saturday #32
Things sure have changed since TV' " Love Boat" style. FarPoint Saturday #33
Interesting post. I've never had a desire to take a cruise like the one you describe. Too many people. Vinca Saturday #34
Welcome back! karin_sj Saturday #35
Our last cruise was in April Mz Pip Saturday #36
Loved your report llmart Saturday #38
Welcome back to dry land and the shit that goes with it... ProudMNDemocrat Saturday #39
If you think that is bad, go on a swingers cruise! usedtobedemgurl Saturday #41
The first cruise I went on after Covid PCIntern Saturday #43
We took two sea voyages a while back with a European ship that was basicallly a a retofitted barge. The food was fresh CTyankee Saturday #45
Each cruise line has its own personality mainer Saturday #46
I've never taken a cruise and probably never will mountain grammy Saturday #50
Used to love crusing snowybirdie Saturday #52
I hope you had a chance to Avalon Sparks Saturday #53
Yes... PCIntern Saturday #54
I've never been on a cruise and don't intend to ever go on one.... Sogo Saturday #55
Well, that's certainly your prerogative PCIntern Saturday #56
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