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cab67

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Tue Dec 16, 2025, 04:33 PM Dec 16

The president need not be a trained herpetologist. [View all]

Last edited Tue Dec 16, 2025, 06:12 PM - Edit history (1)

I do, however, ask that the president not just make shit up as he goes.

Yesterday, he told a story about a doctor who'd been bitten by a viper in Peru.

Among his claims - "28,000 people die of snakebite every year in Peru." The actual number is closer to 10.

He also mentioned mambas - black and brown. There's no such snake as a "brown" mamba; there are black and green mambas. And unless something went wrong at a zoo, no one in Peru has been killed by a mamba - mambas are native to Africa and do not occur in South America. They're also not vipers, either - they're elapids related to cobras and coral snakes.

The doctor in question was evidently bitten by a fer-de-lance a while back. Fer-de-lances actually are true vipers, though I don't know if the bite happened in Peru.

Important point? Probably not. But it shows how he just makes things up as he goes, and that's not good for any head of state.

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Useless personal anecdote added on edit: Last year, I encountered a close relative of mambas near Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia - a coastal taipan.

Coastal taipans are among the most venomous snakes in the world. But in fact, the snake was a tiny juvenile (maybe 18 inches long; they reach 8 feet), and although taipan venom is nasty, their fangs aren't very large - meaning it probably wouldn't have gotten through my jeans had it bitten me, much less my boots. And the snake knew I was there long before I saw it and was already clearing out.

But I'd forgotten of a lesson learned long ago - that it's ok to relate such stories to one's spouse, provided one doesn't provide all of the details. I told my wife that the taipan I saw wasn't a threat. But I stupidly added, "Besides - this was a coastal taipan. The coastal taipan isn't the most venomous snake in the world. That would be the inland taipan."

The first time I learned that was when I told my (now ex) spouse about the Mozambique cobra I encountered in a coffee plantation in Tanzania. Saying I saw the snake was fine. Adding that I was out of spitting range went too far. I thought that would have been good information, but reminding her that cobras can spit was more alarming than it should have been.

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Why was he even talking about Peruvian vipers in the first place? Ocelot II Dec 16 #1
Think of his cabinet, perhaps? SheltieLover Dec 16 #3
Professional courtesy? Jerry2144 Dec 16 #4
Vipers, maybe, but why Peruvian vipers? Who's talking about Peru at all? Ocelot II Dec 16 #5
Confused w/Venezuela ? Not at all beyond possibility -- in fact, quite probable. eppur_se_muova Dec 16 #7
He was evidently discussing someone in the room. cab67 Dec 16 #14
No viper would tolerate such a comparison. cab67 Dec 16 #12
He surrounds himself with them. Why wouldn't he talk about them? jmowreader Dec 16 #10
No, he doesn't. cab67 Dec 16 #13
This story had the victim escorting BidenRocks Dec 16 #35
He murdered Truth about 10 years ago. maxsolomon Dec 16 #2
Reagan was notorious... GiqueCee Dec 16 #6
"To the people of Bolivia, or someplace like that." eppur_se_muova Dec 16 #8
And to Brazilians no less! peppertree Dec 16 #28
"Snoozalini" -- Bwaah! Pinback Wednesday #55
Why, thank you. peppertree Wednesday #56
Brazilian scientists take a very dim view of colonialist attitudes. cab67 Wednesday #58
True. 'Colonialist attitude' is the GOPee's middle name. peppertree Wednesday #63
Things just pop in his head and then leak out of his mouth PatSeg Dec 16 #9
Only about one-half. The others end up in his Depends. erronis Dec 16 #11
Ha, ha, yeah I think you're right PatSeg Dec 16 #30
Fun fact: There are no poisonous snakes. markodochartaigh Dec 16 #15
My daughter knows this. cab67 Dec 16 #22
About half of the adults that markodochartaigh Dec 16 #25
and I'm willing to bet about half of those don't understand the explanation. cab67 Dec 16 #31
Have you ever bitten a snake? IronLionZion Dec 16 #24
I've never had a reason to bite one. cab67 Dec 16 #34
This is arguable since there are snakes that have a good chance of being poisonous. PurgedVoter Wednesday #53
We saw a Fer de Lance in Costa Rica obamanut2012 Dec 16 #16
very lucky! cab67 Dec 16 #21
The point is to be very afraid of anyone brown or black IronLionZion Dec 16 #17
Those are gorgeous snakes. cab67 Dec 16 #19
The president need not be a trained herpetologist shakeyslim Dec 16 #18
That is 10 over the span of 2000-2015 relayerbob Dec 16 #20
no, it's ten per year. cab67 Dec 16 #23
What do you expect from a demented, senile IMBECILE? AZ8theist Dec 16 #26
Thank you SuzyandPuffpuff Dec 16 #27
Snakes on the brain. SusieCreamcheese Dec 16 #29
It's the snakes that fall out of trees that scare the bejesus out of me FakeNoose Dec 16 #32
True story - cab67 Dec 16 #36
The Confabulator in Chief is hemorrhaging brain cells Hassler Dec 16 #33
Not only 10 people but 10 people over 15 years nt Javaman Dec 16 #37
pretty sure it's ten per year cab67 Dec 16 #38
I have to find the article Javaman Dec 16 #39
I might be wrong as well. cab67 Dec 16 #46
Yup you're right. Javaman Dec 16 #40
I appreciate the fact check. cab67 Dec 16 #47
When we were going to Costa Rica to zipline, tavernier Dec 16 #41
I encountered driver ants in Kenya this past summer. cab67 Dec 16 #43
Mr eyelash was especially interesting since it had wrapped itself tavernier Dec 16 #48
I have seen a fer-de-lance in Costa Rica. My gardener killed one 2 weeks ago and brought to the house to show me! sinkingfeeling Dec 16 #42
why did he kill it? cab67 Dec 16 #45
He said it started to flee when he encountered it within 20 feet of my pool, but then sinkingfeeling Wednesday #50
I talked about this in a previous post Wiz Imp Dec 16 #44
His brain is undergoing frontotemporal dementia - on top of the malignant narcissistic personality disorder summer_in_TX Dec 16 #49
"besides, its the coastal taipan" got my ho ho ho this morning. rampartd Wednesday #51
most blather out of oompa's hamburger hole is bullshit. if he was poor at a bar, he's be a crank. pansypoo53219 Wednesday #52
My takeaway is that Trump is afraid of a lot of things. yardwork Wednesday #54
It's so refreshing to listen to real expertise on this MadameButterfly Wednesday #57
Sorry if this has already been addressed. But I learned ages ago that a viper is a general term for many snakes. efhmc Wednesday #59
Coral snakes (which occur in Texas) aren't true vipers. cab67 Wednesday #60
If a viper bit tRUMP Conjuay Wednesday #61
Why would a snake be interested in Twinklesphincter? cab67 Wednesday #62
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