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MadameButterfly

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59. It's not for South Carolina to decide, and it doesn't have to be the presidency
Sat Dec 20, 2025, 08:54 PM
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She could become Speaker of the House, or a Leader of the Senate.
I could see her as the next generation's Nancy Pelosi.
But she is young, who knows where the country will be 20 years from now. After the pendulum swings back from Trump.
After 20 more years of strong women in politics. Did we foresee Barack Obama 20 years before he became president?
Frankly, she will have to be a little less beautiful and much more experienced to overcome the mysogeny, before she will be taken seriously enough to have a shot at the presidency.

As for South Carolina: that was put there to make sure no Progressive gets though a primary run. Enfranchising Black people was just an excuse to make it hard to undo. That needs to be fixed, or the Democratic Party is toast. Our candidates can't be chosen by one of the most conservative states in the country (nor should they be chosen by the most Progressive states either). We need to go back to starting with moderate states, small enough to really meet the candidates, then move on to states with prominant Black populations that are also swing states like Michigan, Virginia, Georgia, and North Carolina.

I was fine with Iowa. A one time technology glitch is irrelevant. Yes it's mostly White, but it gave us Obama. It also gave us a tie between Bernie and Buttigieg, which is the real reason Iowa was removed.

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AOC is the future of both the Democratic Party and the country SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #1
Agree, love AOC! anciano Saturday #3
Damn! That woman is fine. Intractable Saturday #8
Like Jasmine Crockett SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #10
Especially those with dark skin. llmart Saturday #18
If dark skin is a problem, BidenRocks Yesterday #64
YESSSSS... BINGOOO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Saturday #9
My gosh She's so beautiful. Oneironaut Saturday #15
I have a crush, but importantly.. mvd Saturday #31
100% this! Oneironaut Saturday #33
And she can dance! HappyH Saturday #20
I agree. I wasn't predisposed to approve of her, but she has really shown me. Mister Ed Saturday #36
Tap the brakes...AOC is the future for Democratic Socialists and the Bernie supporters, NOT the Democratic Party Wanderlust988 Saturday #50
It's not for South Carolina to decide, and it doesn't have to be the presidency MadameButterfly Saturday #59
It was South Carolina that saved our ass in 2020 with Joe Biden, and he is progressive Wanderlust988 23 hrs ago #65
I don't want a flame thrower and I object that you decide who is a dreamer or not MadameButterfly 17 hrs ago #70
Post removed Post removed 5 hrs ago #74
Agree. betsuni 5 hrs ago #75
I suggested 3 Southern states MadameButterfly 4 hrs ago #80
Here we are amongst the Democratic underground.... reACTIONary Saturday #60
Tapping the brakes is what loses elections SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #67
YouCould Be Right, But For A Different Reason DallasNE 15 hrs ago #72
What generation does Erika Kirk speak for? Buckeyeblue Saturday #2
Ask Bari Weiss edhopper Saturday #4
This Bari Weiss? SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #5
The generation of grifters and film flam artists Javaman Saturday #19
AOC has and is putting in the work while Ms Kirk is being anointed by the press...big difference Deuxcents Saturday #6
And who gets 10x edhopper Saturday #11
Lauren Underwood is putting in the work. murielm99 Saturday #16
AOC gave the strongest condemnation of the gab13by13 Saturday #7
It's not just Magascum that hate her unfortunately SunImp 4 hrs ago #81
Source, please. Amaryllis Saturday #12
The Media edhopper Saturday #13
I could see FoxNews and maybe CNN. May NYTimes and WaPo but not sure who else LymphocyteLover Saturday #25
"The media. Everywhere." ificandream Saturday #30
Link obamanut2012 Saturday #37
MSM - just a bunch of profiteers supporting fellow profiteers. Trust_Reality Saturday #14
Regarless of whether you think she's a kook or not, she's not an opportunistic grifter ToxMarz Saturday #17
You should re-read my OP edhopper Saturday #21
When I said "Regarless of whether you think she's a kook" I wasn't referring to the original poster ToxMarz Saturday #46
Thanks edhopper Saturday #53
OP wasn't saying AOC's a kook. Quite the opposite. OP was referencing her unfair and biased treatment by M$M vs Kirk n/t Cheezoholic Saturday #28
When I said "Regarless of whether you think she's a kook" I wasn't referring to the original poster ToxMarz Saturday #44
She most certainly is not the voice of a generation. milestogo Saturday #22
Maybe MorbidButterflyTat Saturday #56
What is the source for that quote? Raven123 Saturday #23
You have a long wait because there is none. The OP just trolled it out of thin air. ificandream Saturday #34
It seems clear to me that it's describing the general gist of what the MSM is saying, rather than quoting anyone. Scrivener7 Saturday #38
Thank you edhopper Saturday #41
And apparently, general statements really piss them off. Which is ... very strange. Scrivener7 Saturday #45
Yeah edhopper Saturday #52
I'm sure FoxNews says that. Does MSNOW or CNN? LymphocyteLover Saturday #24
CBS is clearly throwing down the rose petals for Kirk. That's pretty mainstream. Scrivener7 Saturday #39
The Bari Weiss effect is evident. live love laugh Saturday #48
Thanks. I forgot how CBS has gone down the toilet since the Weiss takeover LymphocyteLover 19 hrs ago #66
Can't scream while vomiting! TexLaProgressive Saturday #26
Post removed Post removed Saturday #27
OP is NOT implying Kirk is wonderful. The OP is about the unfair treatment AOC gets in the M$M compared to Kirk Cheezoholic Saturday #29
I don't need an interpretation. I get what he made it look like he was saying. ificandream Saturday #32
Why does this anger you so much? The OP is obviously a general description of the current tenor of the news coverage Scrivener7 Saturday #47
Thank you edhopper Saturday #43
This ain't no mic drop. There's nothing wrong with the OP. Scrivener7 Saturday #40
You don't seem to understand edhopper Saturday #42
MAGA really Traildogbob Saturday #35
What? Who said that.. Bari Weiss? Kirk is Hate... Cha Saturday #49
More MSM "framing" and not so subtle endorsement... Evolve Dammit Saturday #51
It doesn't help when our own Democrats don't support her. Buddyzbuddy Saturday #54
So true. edhopper Saturday #55
The lowlifes... GiqueCee Saturday #57
Oligarchs own the media Indyfan53 Saturday #58
The so called "main stream media"? Could you be... reACTIONary Saturday #61
They don't need me to impune them edhopper Saturday #62
No quotes? Which MSN service... reACTIONary Saturday #63
You don't understand the what the OP edhopper 17 hrs ago #69
In my opinion, editorial comments.... reACTIONary 9 hrs ago #73
Hmmm lonely bird 18 hrs ago #68
Remember when Steve Bannon wanted AOC Mme. Defarge 17 hrs ago #71
Of course a bar fly would be interested in the bartender. marble falls 4 hrs ago #78
I've yet to hear JBTaurus83 5 hrs ago #76
Here, I'll join you, AAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH! marble falls 5 hrs ago #77
OMFG, if I hear one more thing about Erika Kirk... Initech 4 hrs ago #79
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