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MadameButterfly

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70. I don't want a flame thrower and I object that you decide who is a dreamer or not
Sun Dec 21, 2025, 09:31 AM
13 hrs ago

based on race.

I want the nominee chosen by moderate states, not states on either extreme of the spectrum. People of color should be included, but we have done this by giving arguably our most conservative state veto power before the primaries ever get going. South Carolina Democrats identify as Conservative. That is not typical of the Democratic Party as a whole. If you want Black voters, they can be found in moderate states. Virginia, North Carolina, Michigan, Georgia.

I'm happy to have moderate candidates, I'm interested in winning the general election too. But said moderate candidates should have the campaigning skills to win a moderate state like Iowa. Iowa is not full of wild-eyed radicals but they do show up at town halls and find out first hand the candidates' ability to deliver their message. This vetting has served us in the general election for years. Our candidates should be able to handle the close examination in person that voters give them in Iowa and New Hampshire. i'm not suggesting we make Massachussetts or California our litmus test.

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AOC is the future of both the Democratic Party and the country SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #1
Agree, love AOC! anciano Yesterday #3
Damn! That woman is fine. Intractable Yesterday #8
Like Jasmine Crockett SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #10
Especially those with dark skin. llmart Yesterday #18
If dark skin is a problem, BidenRocks 21 hrs ago #64
YESSSSS... BINGOOO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Yesterday #9
My gosh She's so beautiful. Oneironaut Yesterday #15
I have a crush, but importantly.. mvd Yesterday #31
100% this! Oneironaut Yesterday #33
And she can dance! HappyH Yesterday #20
I agree. I wasn't predisposed to approve of her, but she has really shown me. Mister Ed Yesterday #36
Tap the brakes...AOC is the future for Democratic Socialists and the Bernie supporters, NOT the Democratic Party Wanderlust988 Yesterday #50
It's not for South Carolina to decide, and it doesn't have to be the presidency MadameButterfly Yesterday #59
It was South Carolina that saved our ass in 2020 with Joe Biden, and he is progressive Wanderlust988 19 hrs ago #65
I don't want a flame thrower and I object that you decide who is a dreamer or not MadameButterfly 13 hrs ago #70
It's offensive and I reject that you think black southerners should have less of a say in the primary. Wanderlust988 1 hr ago #74
Agree. betsuni 53 min ago #75
I suggested 3 Southern states MadameButterfly 3 min ago #80
Here we are amongst the Democratic underground.... reACTIONary Yesterday #60
Tapping the brakes is what loses elections SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #67
YouCould Be Right, But For A Different Reason DallasNE 10 hrs ago #72
What generation does Erika Kirk speak for? Buckeyeblue Yesterday #2
Ask Bari Weiss edhopper Yesterday #4
This Bari Weiss? SocialDemocrat61 Yesterday #5
The generation of grifters and film flam artists Javaman Yesterday #19
AOC has and is putting in the work while Ms Kirk is being anointed by the press...big difference Deuxcents Yesterday #6
And who gets 10x edhopper Yesterday #11
Lauren Underwood is putting in the work. murielm99 Yesterday #16
AOC gave the strongest condemnation of the gab13by13 Yesterday #7
It's not just Magascum that hate her unfortunately SunImp 3 min ago #81
Source, please. Amaryllis Yesterday #12
The Media edhopper Yesterday #13
I could see FoxNews and maybe CNN. May NYTimes and WaPo but not sure who else LymphocyteLover Yesterday #25
"The media. Everywhere." ificandream Yesterday #30
Link obamanut2012 Yesterday #37
MSM - just a bunch of profiteers supporting fellow profiteers. Trust_Reality Yesterday #14
Regarless of whether you think she's a kook or not, she's not an opportunistic grifter ToxMarz Yesterday #17
You should re-read my OP edhopper Yesterday #21
When I said "Regarless of whether you think she's a kook" I wasn't referring to the original poster ToxMarz Yesterday #46
Thanks edhopper Yesterday #53
OP wasn't saying AOC's a kook. Quite the opposite. OP was referencing her unfair and biased treatment by M$M vs Kirk n/t Cheezoholic Yesterday #28
When I said "Regarless of whether you think she's a kook" I wasn't referring to the original poster ToxMarz Yesterday #44
She most certainly is not the voice of a generation. milestogo Yesterday #22
Maybe MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #56
What is the source for that quote? Raven123 Yesterday #23
You have a long wait because there is none. The OP just trolled it out of thin air. ificandream Yesterday #34
It seems clear to me that it's describing the general gist of what the MSM is saying, rather than quoting anyone. Scrivener7 Yesterday #38
Thank you edhopper Yesterday #41
And apparently, general statements really piss them off. Which is ... very strange. Scrivener7 Yesterday #45
Yeah edhopper Yesterday #52
I'm sure FoxNews says that. Does MSNOW or CNN? LymphocyteLover Yesterday #24
CBS is clearly throwing down the rose petals for Kirk. That's pretty mainstream. Scrivener7 Yesterday #39
The Bari Weiss effect is evident. live love laugh Yesterday #48
Thanks. I forgot how CBS has gone down the toilet since the Weiss takeover LymphocyteLover 14 hrs ago #66
Can't scream while vomiting! TexLaProgressive Yesterday #26
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #27
OP is NOT implying Kirk is wonderful. The OP is about the unfair treatment AOC gets in the M$M compared to Kirk Cheezoholic Yesterday #29
I don't need an interpretation. I get what he made it look like he was saying. ificandream Yesterday #32
Why does this anger you so much? The OP is obviously a general description of the current tenor of the news coverage Scrivener7 Yesterday #47
Thank you edhopper Yesterday #43
This ain't no mic drop. There's nothing wrong with the OP. Scrivener7 Yesterday #40
You don't seem to understand edhopper Yesterday #42
MAGA really Traildogbob Yesterday #35
What? Who said that.. Bari Weiss? Kirk is Hate... Cha Yesterday #49
More MSM "framing" and not so subtle endorsement... Evolve Dammit Yesterday #51
It doesn't help when our own Democrats don't support her. Buddyzbuddy Yesterday #54
So true. edhopper Yesterday #55
The lowlifes... GiqueCee Yesterday #57
Oligarchs own the media Indyfan53 Yesterday #58
The so called "main stream media"? Could you be... reACTIONary Yesterday #61
They don't need me to impune them edhopper Yesterday #62
No quotes? Which MSN service... reACTIONary 23 hrs ago #63
You don't understand the what the OP edhopper 13 hrs ago #69
In my opinion, editorial comments.... reACTIONary 5 hrs ago #73
Hmmm lonely bird 14 hrs ago #68
Remember when Steve Bannon wanted AOC Mme. Defarge 13 hrs ago #71
Of course a bar fly would be interested in the bartender. marble falls 36 min ago #78
I've yet to hear JBTaurus83 46 min ago #76
Here, I'll join you, AAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH! marble falls 38 min ago #77
OMFG, if I hear one more thing about Erika Kirk... Initech 31 min ago #79
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