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ibegurpard

(17,074 posts)
74. Several things can be true at once
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 01:05 PM
5 hrs ago

You can appreciate them speaking out without getting fully behind them. They aren't welcome in the Democratic Party without a LOT of soul searching, apologizing and reevaluating.
But yes we can cheer them on as they speak out.

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No bashing............... Lovie777 9 hrs ago #1
You dont have to trust them to support them when they're in the right. Callie1979 9 hrs ago #3
Excellent analogy gab13by13 9 hrs ago #7
Right, it's not like we are supporting them for political office JI7 8 hrs ago #15
I would tell MTG to her face; I dont agree with many of your positions; Callie1979 9 hrs ago #2
She's hopping of the ship purr-rat beauty 7 hrs ago #35
They can switch parties then, otherwise they are pukes that did one right thing once. Blues Heron 9 hrs ago #4
But what's wrong with that ? Why do they need to switch parties ? What's wrong with opposing Trump JI7 8 hrs ago #16
It's great, but let's not get carried away here, they are pukes and not to be trusted. Blues Heron 8 hrs ago #18
I don't see anyone getting carried away here, MarineCombatEngineer 8 hrs ago #28
There's every reason bash them continuously for being Nazis, this seems like Stockholm syndrome or something Blues Heron 8 hrs ago #29
Who here is saying their our friends? MarineCombatEngineer 7 hrs ago #32
Ok we'll do us and you can do you Blues Heron 7 hrs ago #40
That's just stupid. This is the both sides mentality. JI7 6 hrs ago #48
I'm in the bash-away camp. Gore1FL 9 hrs ago #5
I think you are wrong, gab13by13 9 hrs ago #8
I submit the Epstein files would have eventually came out; all but one republican voted to release it. Gore1FL 5 hrs ago #73
Nothing attracts a crowd like a crowd underpants 9 hrs ago #6
Nancy Mace should apologize to our congresswoman Sarah McBride, whom she treated like shit j Walleye 9 hrs ago #9
No bashing here, I applaud them for standing up to Trumpedo, MarineCombatEngineer 9 hrs ago #10
I mean, St. Paul was once Saul, a murderer. gab13by13 9 hrs ago #11
So the story goes, anyhow. MineralMan 7 hrs ago #38
I agree that the likes of MTG, Boebert, Massie, etc. don't have our best interests as a priority, MarineCombatEngineer 7 hrs ago #41
Sure. It's good that she has turned on Trump. MineralMan 7 hrs ago #42
Agreed. nt MarineCombatEngineer 7 hrs ago #43
I gave money to my only Democratic Rep in Pa. John Fetterman, gab13by13 5 hrs ago #70
Trump took power a year ago with a fresh solid Jenga Tower. JohnnyRingo 9 hrs ago #12
Like the Allies joined with Russia in WWII. Irish_Dem 9 hrs ago #13
That's the same analogy SCantiGOP 7 hrs ago #45
I seriously doubt the howler monkey twins are gonna save the world! MorbidButterflyTat 5 hrs ago #66
Yep at least Stalin helped us win the war. Irish_Dem 5 hrs ago #71
Mace is genuinely cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs ecstatic 9 hrs ago #14
Truth telling and facts ZDU 8 hrs ago #17
"These people are tiny cracks in Krasnov's armor who live in Magat districts who can bring unwashed Magats over to our WhiskeyGrinder 8 hrs ago #19
Have you not been watching the special elections? gab13by13 8 hrs ago #21
. WhiskeyGrinder 8 hrs ago #24
I am not expecting a Magat movement, gab13by13 7 hrs ago #36
Not necessarily, but they can urge their contituents to sit out the mid terms MarineCombatEngineer 8 hrs ago #31
Have any of them said they were gonna do that? MorbidButterflyTat 5 hrs ago #67
I have no idea if or if not any of them have urged their constituents MarineCombatEngineer 1 hr ago #89
We needed the Soviet Union to side with us in World War II Norbert 8 hrs ago #20
MTG and Nancy Mace want to eradicate all trans people. Nancy Mace uses transphobic slurs repeatedly. Oneironaut 8 hrs ago #22
. MorbidButterflyTat 5 hrs ago #68
In 2025, both Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) and Lauren Boebert (R-CO) have maintained very high levels of alignment with CentralMass 8 hrs ago #23
Excellent, citing their actual records is all that needs to done displacedvermoter 4 hrs ago #80
Praising them is an even worse idea. MineralMan 8 hrs ago #25
I love watching them call out Trump womanofthehills 6 hrs ago #49
They're causing headaches for MustLoveBeagles 8 hrs ago #26
Let them fight it out. aocommunalpunch 8 hrs ago #27
I think you're wrong and here's why: yardwork 8 hrs ago #30
IMO the opposite happened, gab13by13 5 hrs ago #72
MTG, for instance, is a shrewd politician. yardwork 4 hrs ago #87
Mmmm...their damage is Done purr-rat beauty 7 hrs ago #33
I don't Rebl2 7 hrs ago #34
All of you people who disagree with me, gab13by13 7 hrs ago #37
Oh, my! MineralMan 7 hrs ago #39
I will have a phone on me purr-rat beauty 6 hrs ago #54
If that's all it takes for them to turn on me, fuck them. Their support for us is piss poor or nonexistent. ... marble falls 6 hrs ago #60
A decent person would just call 911! Not stupidly ask, "Hey, you're half dead, need some help?" MorbidButterflyTat 6 hrs ago #65
I'm Not ConstanceCee 7 hrs ago #44
I've always said "When your enemy is agreeing with you STFU and let them." meadowlander 7 hrs ago #46
Here we go again... like when RWNJ Liz Cheney became a hero. WarGamer 6 hrs ago #47
Nobody here are claiming their heroes, MarineCombatEngineer 6 hrs ago #50
I 100% agree Kaleva 6 hrs ago #58
How is not bashing someone the same as proclaiming them to be a hero? Kaleva 6 hrs ago #57
Who said they were admirable? gab13by13 5 hrs ago #75
Playing footsie with Liz won us absolutely zero votes, but it did cost us. JHB 1 hr ago #91
These are awful people Quiet Em 6 hrs ago #51
They are awful people, MarineCombatEngineer 6 hrs ago #53
I agree that the infighting among the MAGA cult can benefit Democrats Quiet Em 6 hrs ago #55
Agreed and a Happy New Year. MarineCombatEngineer 6 hrs ago #61
Happy New Year to you as well. Quiet Em 6 hrs ago #63
I may be an optimist some_of_us_are_sane 6 hrs ago #52
Everyone, please concentrate on a positive program and actions to smash the Party of Pedo Protectors usonian 6 hrs ago #56
An old saying Timewas 6 hrs ago #59
She co-drove the bus that took us to this #ell! Hope22 6 hrs ago #62
Who's bashing? MorbidButterflyTat 6 hrs ago #64
What is the consequence? Cirsium 5 hrs ago #69
Several things can be true at once ibegurpard 5 hrs ago #74
I haven't seen anyone suggest we get fully behind them Kaleva 5 hrs ago #77
Yes! Let them be..... frogstar0 5 hrs ago #76
You'll not see me siding with Trump in attacking his enemies Kaleva 5 hrs ago #78
Yes, using people is politics. betsuni 5 hrs ago #79
Nothing is preventing them from flipping to the Democratic Party and being centrists. 33taw 4 hrs ago #81
100% correct. orangecrush 4 hrs ago #82
I won't bash them, but I don't support them, either calguy 4 hrs ago #83
Disagree with them when they're wrong, but.... LogDog75 4 hrs ago #84
Yes. For now. Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #85
Tell them it is now very clear to even the magats (except the pedophiles) that Justice matters. 4 hrs ago #86
When they oppose Trump, give them a treat thought crime 2 hrs ago #88
We've had this debate before, about NeverTrumpers. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" stuff. JHB 1 hr ago #90
The reality is... purr-rat beauty 1 hr ago #92
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