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Dan

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27. I was listening to a pod-caster video
Sun Jan 18, 2026, 02:54 PM
Jan 18

He made some interesting points - which I hope will not be perceived as an attack on Democrats, but what he said resonated with me.

The primary point he made that the GOP is slowly but surely stripping rights away from the working class, via policy, misinformation, combined with racism and misogyny. Once they strip some rights away, the Democratic party resumes power and slowly but surely reacquires some of the rights that have been stripped away. Some, but not all. So, gradually the nation is trending rightward.

The problem is that both parties are somewhat beholden to their donors - and they share the some of the same donors. That is one of the primary reason we don't have universal health care. The Healthcare lobby has more power than we the people combined with the additional power that Citizens United bestowed on Corporations.

This Pod-caster advocated for a third party that would benefit the workers Or a real Democratic party leadership that would actively fight for the working class without regard for the donor base. People like Congressperson Crockett, AOC, etc., those that are leading the charge and have media savvy to counteract the right-wing media.

It was interesting because I have a friend that is currently trying to form a third party for some of the same reasons that this pod-caster made. While very progressive he has turned off the Democratic party due to what he perceives as their half-ass measures to address the needs of the working person. And, unfortunately he believes that our party is more interested in their fund raising over the people. He believes that the old people in the party are more interested in their seats (and will do nothing that jeopardizes the seats) than benefiting the people.

On parts I do have to agree - I think that the party would be better served by pushing more of the younger generation of Democratic leaders than catering to the needs/beliefs of the elderly members of the party. I do believe that change is in the air and that the younger people are going to lead our party in changing and finding news ways. The young people will fight while the elders seek compromise (with the exception of Nancy P., who I hope will live forever as a demonstrator of a fighter). I do question whether compromise is the way forward given what we are currently experiencing and the character of the GOP.

Like I said, I hope that this won't be perceived as an attack on the Democratic party but maybe something to think about as we go forward.

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Why can't Democrats just say it: [View all] Chasstev365 Jan 18 OP
They can do that. Just saying the GOP is standing in the way of better healthcare, affordability & stability works too. dutch777 Jan 18 #1
There is so much low hanging fruit that we are not picking. The messaging Scrivener7 Jan 18 #2
I stand boggled with you, S7. yellow dahlia Jan 18 #39
Maybe they'll suggest Republicans wear body cams n/t leftstreet Jan 18 #3
Jason Crow said it, gab13by13 Jan 18 #4
I don't think we can wait that long. Jan 2027 if a new Congress is seated. paleotn Jan 18 #12
That Alaska airborn unit's planned deployment to Minnesota is not actually for Minnesota. Scrivener7 Jan 19 #56
Again, we are waiting on something that may not happen. hamsterjill Jan 18 #20
Post removed Post removed Jan 19 #44
I believe taking a stand now and fighting them Hey Joe Jan 19 #51
No, NO!! We must focus on the Abundance Agenda, because that's what our consultants said!!! hatrack Jan 18 #5
I guess Hakeem Jefferies, Mark Kelly, Elissa Slotkin, AOC, et al. didn't get the memo? paleotn Jan 18 #11
Also Jamie Raskin, Eric Swalwell, and many others ShazzieB Jan 18 #25
I get tired of that particular Dem bashing line too BaronChocula Jan 18 #37
Evidently one can be a "supporter" giving "constructive criticism" by lying about what Democrats do/say and do not. betsuni Jan 19 #54
You mean the Elissa Slotkin choie Jan 19 #52
We do Democrats always have to present a positive message and agenda that the corporate media ignores? Chasstev365 Jan 18 #16
Fire all the consultants. yellow dahlia Jan 18 #40
I'm a Democrat and I'm saying, as are you too, I assume. Some elected Dems are saying it too-- like Jasmine Crockett! LymphocyteLover Jan 18 #6
Sometimes Katcat Jan 18 #7
Really no downside to much these days. paleotn Jan 18 #8
Coloring within the lines for decorum's sake only guarantees Democrats march in an orderly fashion to the camps. Efilroft Sul Jan 18 #9
We say that all the time creeksneakers2 Jan 18 #10
Schumer: "The bottom line is, Senate Republicans continually fall in line behind Donald Trump, no matter how reckless, betsuni Jan 18 #13
You can be a supporter choie Jan 19 #53
Why don't Democrats use some random phrasing that came out of your head? Gee, I don't know? tritsofme Jan 18 #14
Reread my original post: You missed my point entirely Chasstev365 Jan 18 #17
It's just not true. Democrats denounce Republicans for falling behind Trump all the time. tritsofme Jan 18 #19
Yes, it's not true. Gaslights make it pretty dim in here. betsuni Jan 18 #30
Yes - the problem with the Republican party is REPUBLICANS, not just Trump. Beartracks Jan 18 #15
RULES ONLY APPLY TO DEMS, RIGHT? Exp Jan 18 #18
ANY MEANS NECESSARY czarjak Jan 18 #21
Doesn't seem very productive. mdbl Jan 18 #22
Like the LEO's are afraid of breaking a nail single-handedly apprehending a person, I think our Democratic leaders are LiberalArkie Jan 18 #23
Almost half the country still support Trump!!! kirby Jan 18 #24
That's what my husband keeps saying Tree Lady Jan 18 #41
A lot of media make sure many still support him. They hide the truth of his mental illness so they have 'access' Attilatheblond Jan 19 #45
Dems are channeling Merrick Garland Tetrachloride Jan 18 #26
I was listening to a pod-caster video Dan Jan 18 #27
"This Pod-caster advocated for a third party..." MorbidButterflyTat Jan 18 #35
Don't remember Dan Jan 18 #36
The Democratic Party has historically been the larger of two parties Warpy Jan 18 #28
I am hearing dems say a lot and the press ignores them. I have heard great speeches in congress. But, people keep mucifer Jan 18 #29
I've been wondering what has happened to Princess. She used to be able to rein in Daddy Dearest a bit and surely Vinca Jan 18 #31
She won't do anything to slow the money boats docking at her shore. Attilatheblond Jan 19 #46
They are saying it MorbidButterflyTat Jan 18 #32
These "Why don't Democrats stop Republicans?" whines are boring. A milquetoast bash. betsuni Jan 19 #49
We need someone to write a strongly worded letter. doc03 Jan 18 #33
Democrats have said things like that and more but I am wondering JI7 Jan 18 #34
Democrats like us have been saying that for more than a decade. So has the Democratic minority in the Senate and the Martin68 Jan 18 #38
It's why.... RetiredParatrooper Jan 19 #42
Just three things. usonian Jan 19 #43
a great question samsingh Jan 19 #47
Some are. barbtries Jan 19 #48
Chris Murphy should be the Senate minority leader. Scrivener7 Jan 19 #55
Not a chance of that until the next Congress. maxsolomon Jan 19 #58
Yeah, I know. Scrivener7 Jan 19 #59
I was pretty bad at math and don't get the New Division Torchlight Jan 19 #50
They are saying it. maxsolomon Jan 19 #57
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