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In reply to the discussion: "They've changed their faces to please the patriarchy." [View all]AZJonnie
(2,974 posts)But I have watched a lot of people get older naturally, changed hairstyle and makeup, and it doesn't look like this. I suppose in particular I'm not 100% sure what the definition of plastic surgery is (like, do cheek implants count? Facelifts? Nose Jobs?), precisely, so that may a failure in my understanding. Perhaps some of these things they're doing to themselves is not permanent, like things that inflate lips and remove wrinkles and such. But I as I say apart from Leavitt (who def. seems to at least have had a nose job) and perhaps Lara Trump (of this set) I'm very confident at minimum there's injections of various agents, not just hairstyle and makeup changes. And no way have Loomer, Sanchez, and Guilfoyle not had serious surgery, they look way too different, and I'd suspect Noem has as well, but I'm not 100% 'up' on what's possible to do 'chemically'