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mr715

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Wed Jan 21, 2026, 01:40 PM

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Obama couldn't do it.
Pelosi couldn't do it.
Warren couldn't do it.
Sanders couldn't do it.
Wellstone couldn't do it.
Feingold couldn't do it.
Mondale couldn't do it.
Clinton couldn't do it.
Harris couldn't do it.

But the merc with the nazi tattoo that he did the courtesy of covering up (reactively, not proactively) because he got caught will.

He is entitled and he needs to learn to represent people and party. There will be a primary and he has a very real possibility of being the nominee. If he is, I will support him. But he is not yet. And he hasn't displayed anything other than passion. But passion without a track record (or perhaps with only a problematic track record) is a recipe for major buyers remorse.

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Meet Graham Platner. Here is one white guy who can help save the Democratic Party from itself, imho. [View all] ariadne0614 Tuesday OP

Question JustAnotherGen Tuesday #1

I guess you didn't watch the interview. n/t ariadne0614 Tuesday #3

use your gut berksdem Tuesday #6

Watch the interview, or not. ariadne0614 Tuesday #8

I already watched it thanks. berksdem Tuesday #10

I do hold him accountable, and his responses to tough questions impressed me. ariadne0614 Tuesday #17

I HAVE watched the entire interview JustAnotherGen 19 hrs ago #144

I have often said that only Black women can save us, and consider Jasmine Crockett a national treasure. ariadne0614 12 hrs ago #150

His Reddit posts were discussed, but please explain how to look them up with one's guts. n/t ariadne0614 Tuesday #21

don't get mad berksdem Tuesday #24

Autumn is on my side, and you're mistaking enthusiasm for swooning. ariadne0614 Tuesday #32

JFC berksdem Tuesday #48

Calm down. ariadne0614 Tuesday #60

I've never in my life heard any self-described "radical feminist" say that an average white guy had "potent magic" but WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #52

I am a wonderment, it is true. n/t ariadne0614 Tuesday #108

This Magic Moment 🎶 sheshe2 Yesterday #127

Post removed Post removed Tuesday #65

I appreciate your terror. ariadne0614 Tuesday #97

I don't trust anyone's judgement who advocates for public hangings or private hangings Buckeyeblue Yesterday #123

That didn't work in 1877 to 1965 JustAnotherGen 6 min ago #162

I agree with your concerns but we should note he did get the Nazi tattoo covered up/removed LymphocyteLover 3 hrs ago #158

Nope fuck this guy. His judgment is shit. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #2

You do you. ariadne0614 Tuesday #7

I listened to him and I am fine with his explaations. I like him. Young and has gotten his Autumn Tuesday #11

Thank you Autumn. ariadne0614 Tuesday #14

As for the tattoo nonsense I have known many young people who have tattoos that Autumn Tuesday #16

He's got some potent magic. n/t ariadne0614 Tuesday #22

Getting a Nazi death head tattoo is bad, leaving it on for over decade is worse IMO EX500rider Tuesday #55

And he explained the tattoo he and his fellow soldiers got. nt Autumn Tuesday #58

Again getting a Nazi SS tattoo while drunk on leave is one thing, leaving it there for over a decade is another IMO YMMV EX500rider Tuesday #62

Yah, if all the other soldiers are doing it, it must be okay! betsuni Tuesday #67

You may not know this but men who serve together have a tight bond. nt Autumn Tuesday #72

No ne in my family in the military ever got a Nazi tat obamanut2012 Tuesday #80

When he found out it was a nazi tattoo he had it covered. So AFAIC that's the end of that. Autumn Tuesday #85

This is an awfully slippery slope nt mr715 Tuesday #81

So, you know people who got Nazi tats and still have them over a decade later? obamanut2012 Tuesday #79

You are doing exactly what the RW does obamanut2012 Tuesday #78

I'm lost on this one. ariadne0614 Tuesday #110

Bernie has been wrong before. I don't trust anyone with a Nazi tattoo and posts online that reinforce that. mucholderthandirt Yesterday #124

I'm sorry if I left the impression that I expect anyone, including myself, to ignore his past. ariadne0614 22 hrs ago #136

He discredited himself quite well Blue_Adept 22 hrs ago #133

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Tuesday #75

I like Democrats who don't have Nazi problems in their past, personally. tritsofme Tuesday #4

If I thought for one minute he was a Nazi, I wouldn't have posted the interview. ariadne0614 Tuesday #12

Plenty of posts about him here MichMan Tuesday #25

Thanks. ariadne0614 Tuesday #29

Did you read the other posts by now? MichMan 11 hrs ago #153

It wasn't just a "past" problem.... TommyT139 Tuesday #43

The "establishment" lol awesomerwb1 Tuesday #5

Actually, if I lived in Maine, I'd work my heart out for him. n/t ariadne0614 Tuesday #26

Good for you. I'm sure questionable people like this crazy dude need the money awesomerwb1 Tuesday #30

It's seriously difficult to imagine watching this interview and concluding he's crazy. ariadne0614 Tuesday #31

It's not. Do you like his Nazi tattoo as well? awesomerwb1 Tuesday #33

Is that a serious question? ariadne0614 Tuesday #36

lol Of course he's gonna "own up" awesomerwb1 Tuesday #38

Because Trump has made owning up all the fashion on the Nazi side of the equation. ariadne0614 Tuesday #63

He did plenty of stupid stuff when he was over 30, too. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #64

He isn't just turning 21! mr715 Tuesday #82

It's cute how you think you're the first one to "introduce" awesomerwb1 Tuesday #66

His opponent, Janet Mills: Jack Valentino Tuesday #120

I'm sure they would make me cringe. ariadne0614 Tuesday #70

"This doesn't sound like something your average Nazi would do." lol what WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #51

as if he and his mommy aren't the establishment thebigidea Tuesday #89

Remember when Fetterman was the be all to save all..... Historic NY Tuesday #9

My gut told me from the beginning that there was something off about Fetterman. ariadne0614 Tuesday #13

So you didn't agree with the judgement of Sanders regarding Fetterman but say we should trust his judgement here? W_HAMILTON Tuesday #44

I never once saw him that way. I saw him clearly for what he is. Autumn Tuesday #23

I'm more impressed... 2naSalit Tuesday #15

I'm sure Governor Mills is a fine person. ariadne0614 Tuesday #19

Are you... 2naSalit Tuesday #20

No, I'm just an American who would love to see Democrats take back the Senate. n/t ariadne0614 Tuesday #27

Age-baiting is so last generation Torchlight 22 hrs ago #135

What does her age have to do with it? sheshe2 11 hrs ago #154

Mills is the AIPAC candidate and so whoever the republican nominee will be aipac supported questionseverything Tuesday #34

Maine Senate Race Moves To Toss Up With Mills' Entrance LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #84

He's drawing crowds of elderly people leftstreet Tuesday #18

Interesting. I didn't use my gut to find information on endorsements. ariadne0614 Tuesday #28

"...on both sides..." TommyT139 Tuesday #46

Yes! ariadne0614 Tuesday #49

I was referring TommyT139 Tuesday #92

I think its more like, he is the key to ensuring Susan Collins gets another term FascismIsDeath Tuesday #35

Perhaps not. ariadne0614 Tuesday #59

Some people say he rzemanfl Tuesday #37

I don't understand "one white guy who can save the Democratic Party from itself." betsuni Tuesday #39

In 2007 a Marine Gunnery Sgt. estimated that 92% of about 8,000 Marines rzemanfl Tuesday #40

You get that it was a very specific skull and crossbones that was a hallmark of the SS, right? Not the Jolly Roger? WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #45

I have not seen a picture. Have you? rzemanfl Tuesday #54

I'm familiar with the totenkopf, and the video and screenshots that went around a lot last October make it clear that's WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #57

This tattoo? Quite plainly the SS-Totenkopf tattoo EX500rider Tuesday #61

Agreed. n/t rzemanfl Tuesday #68

I agree the tattoo is a Nazi Death Head (totenkopf). rzemanfl Tuesday #73

Seriously? Cirsium Tuesday #88

Thank you. rzemanfl Tuesday #91

Hey, thanks for listening in good faith. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #100

Maybe the tattooist rzemanfl Tuesday #109

They said the same about John Fetterman. W_HAMILTON Tuesday #41

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Tuesday #42

I doubt his crowds are "Genocide Joe" people leftstreet Tuesday #47

Another start at the top political con. delisen Tuesday #50

If I recall the same views were expressed how Fetterman was the "great liberal hope" over the "establishment" lostincalifornia Tuesday #53

I don't live in Maine mountain grammy Tuesday #56

I do live in Maine chelsea0011 Tuesday #93

Thank you for your response. I have a couple of questions. mountain grammy Tuesday #95

It's not my district chelsea0011 3 hrs ago #155

All that matters to me right now is winning elections BannonsLiver Tuesday #69

Judging from only this one interview, I think he would agree with you. n/t ariadne0614 Tuesday #71

This is why we have primaries. nt mr715 Tuesday #74

He is problematic. mr715 Tuesday #76

lol no, I want someone without Nazi tats, who doesn't hit women and who didn't work as a mercenary obamanut2012 Tuesday #77

MaddowBlog-Maine's Graham Platner faces difficult questions about his record -- and a tattoo LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #83

This post, on its own, would give pause to any reasonable voter. ariadne0614 Tuesday #113

I watched the entire video, I like him. Americanme Tuesday #86

I don't believe in saviors, I believe in passing legislation that helps my family thebigidea Tuesday #87

I don't believe in saviors either. ariadne0614 Tuesday #105

Curious MorbidButterflyTat Tuesday #90

If Democrats win back the Senate, the pressure will come from fed up We the People. n/t ariadne0614 Tuesday #94

Do you truly believe that tsf would actually sign it or... sheshe2 Tuesday #104

Yup, we need both the House and Senate. n/t ariadne0614 Tuesday #114

That's not enough if the president won't sign it. sheshe2 Tuesday #118

Call me delusional, but if our side regains the Senate and House, then anything is possible if ariadne0614 Tuesday #103

Sorry. This is the kind of unicorn thinking that turned me off of the Sanders movement. Blasphemer Tuesday #121

History mr715 20 hrs ago #140

Could be the right messenger at the right time + the cumulative decades of effort. ariadne0614 19 hrs ago #145

Could be, but you don't need to be a Senator to lead. mr715 19 hrs ago #146

I guess we'll find out soon enough. ariadne0614 13 hrs ago #148

The DSCC and Janet Mills have formed a joint fundraising committee together. LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #96

Sincere question. ariadne0614 Tuesday #99

I am Jewish and have an issue with someone with a NAZI tattoo LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #107

I have deep respect your preference. ariadne0614 Tuesday #112

I don't understand the "one white guy" headline. Was that in an article or something? marmar Tuesday #98

Fair question. ariadne0614 Tuesday #101

Look up stories from last year about his choice of tattoos. Iggo 23 hrs ago #129

I'll be voting for Janet Mill's in the primary. If your candidate wins, I will vote for him. OAITW r.2.0 Tuesday #102

Makes perfect sense to me. n/t ariadne0614 Tuesday #106

Ranked Choice voting,,,,democracy in action. OAITW r.2.0 Tuesday #111

I'm all in favor of ranked choice voting. ariadne0614 Tuesday #115

Gov. MAGA Paul got elected in Maine when 60+% voted for two other candidates..... OAITW r.2.0 Tuesday #116

Oh boy! Let the rebranding begin! Iggo Tuesday #117

Still? Really? Has Trump taught us nothing. Gimme a break. nt Blasphemer Tuesday #119

Running against the Democratic Party: Establishment beholden to corporate interests ignore working class, both sides. betsuni Yesterday #122

Dude had a nazi tattoo on his chest for years. Got called out last year and covered it up. Iggo 23 hrs ago #128

Only got called out because there was a video of him running around shirtless during a wedding reception that surfaced MichMan 22 hrs ago #130

Indeed! I'm so fucking done with that BS-- even if it sadly gets votes. LymphocyteLover 3 hrs ago #159

Looking at his background, I would venture he's a Repub plant Just_Vote_Dem Yesterday #125

I expect more will be revealed during the primary process. ariadne0614 3 hrs ago #157

I'm guessing there's more than one... whathehell Yesterday #126

You're absolutely right. ariadne0614 22 hrs ago #131

I take issue with a repeated point you are making. mr715 21 hrs ago #139

Thanks for the opportunity to clarify. ariadne0614 13 hrs ago #147

Thank you for taking the time to reply. mr715 12 hrs ago #149

You're welcome, and I share your willingness to be wrong. n/t ariadne0614 12 hrs ago #152

Is this a trial balloon or is this the actual roll-out? Iggo 20 hrs ago #141

It would surprise me if you thought he was intellectually deficient if you listened to the interview. ariadne0614 19 hrs ago #142

Belief that working class are white men (who Democrats are accused of ignoring in favor of "identity politics"): betsuni 19 hrs ago #143

nazi tattoo + Blackwater employment nope waddirum 22 hrs ago #132

I appreciate your input. ariadne0614 22 hrs ago #134

it's on his wiki page EX500rider 21 hrs ago #137

Thank you very much. ariadne0614 21 hrs ago #138

The guy with the Nazi tattoo and racial slurs? RandySF 12 hrs ago #151

If you are correct, rhen another Fetterman would be very bad. ariadne0614 3 hrs ago #156

We will soon get to see how a 77-year-old middle of the road woman stands up to ICE. rzemanfl 2 hrs ago #160

I love the variety of insights and perspectives on DU. ariadne0614 50 min ago #161