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143. Belief that working class are white men (who Democrats are accused of ignoring in favor of "identity politics"):

Wed Jan 21, 2026, 03:12 PM

3 hrs ago

The leader explains (interviewed by Trevor Noah on his podcast last year, October 9th):

"What you're talking about is identity politics. ... The issue is that Democrats have retreated from class issues, from economic issues, from the desire to take on big money to 'Oh, isn't it wonderful that we have a woman here or have a gay person here and we have a black person here and a Latino person over there."

Of course it's absurd.

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Meet Graham Platner. Here is one white guy who can help save the Democratic Party from itself, imho. [View all] ariadne0614 Yesterday OP

Question JustAnotherGen Yesterday #1

I guess you didn't watch the interview. n/t ariadne0614 Yesterday #3

use your gut berksdem Yesterday #6

Watch the interview, or not. ariadne0614 Yesterday #8

I already watched it thanks. berksdem Yesterday #10

I do hold him accountable, and his responses to tough questions impressed me. ariadne0614 Yesterday #17

I HAVE watched the entire interview JustAnotherGen 3 hrs ago #144

His Reddit posts were discussed, but please explain how to look them up with one's guts. n/t ariadne0614 Yesterday #21

don't get mad berksdem Yesterday #24

Autumn is on my side, and you're mistaking enthusiasm for swooning. ariadne0614 Yesterday #32

JFC berksdem Yesterday #48

Calm down. ariadne0614 Yesterday #60

I've never in my life heard any self-described "radical feminist" say that an average white guy had "potent magic" but WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #52

I am a wonderment, it is true. n/t ariadne0614 21 hrs ago #108

This Magic Moment 🎶 sheshe2 7 hrs ago #127

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #65

I appreciate your terror. ariadne0614 22 hrs ago #97

I don't trust anyone's judgement who advocates for public hangings or private hangings Buckeyeblue 10 hrs ago #123

Nope fuck this guy. His judgment is shit. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #2

You do you. ariadne0614 Yesterday #7

I listened to him and I am fine with his explaations. I like him. Young and has gotten his Autumn Yesterday #11

Thank you Autumn. ariadne0614 Yesterday #14

As for the tattoo nonsense I have known many young people who have tattoos that Autumn Yesterday #16

He's got some potent magic. n/t ariadne0614 Yesterday #22

Getting a Nazi death head tattoo is bad, leaving it on for over decade is worse IMO EX500rider Yesterday #55

And he explained the tattoo he and his fellow soldiers got. nt Autumn Yesterday #58

Again getting a Nazi SS tattoo while drunk on leave is one thing, leaving it there for over a decade is another IMO YMMV EX500rider Yesterday #62

Yah, if all the other soldiers are doing it, it must be okay! betsuni Yesterday #67

You may not know this but men who serve together have a tight bond. nt Autumn Yesterday #72

No ne in my family in the military ever got a Nazi tat obamanut2012 Yesterday #80

When he found out it was a nazi tattoo he had it covered. So AFAIC that's the end of that. Autumn Yesterday #85

This is an awfully slippery slope nt mr715 Yesterday #81

So, you know people who got Nazi tats and still have them over a decade later? obamanut2012 Yesterday #79

You are doing exactly what the RW does obamanut2012 Yesterday #78

I'm lost on this one. ariadne0614 21 hrs ago #110

Bernie has been wrong before. I don't trust anyone with a Nazi tattoo and posts online that reinforce that. mucholderthandirt 10 hrs ago #124

I'm sorry if I left the impression that I expect anyone, including myself, to ignore his past. ariadne0614 5 hrs ago #136

He discredited himself quite well Blue_Adept 6 hrs ago #133

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Yesterday #75

I like Democrats who don't have Nazi problems in their past, personally. tritsofme Yesterday #4

If I thought for one minute he was a Nazi, I wouldn't have posted the interview. ariadne0614 Yesterday #12

Plenty of posts about him here MichMan Yesterday #25

Thanks. ariadne0614 Yesterday #29

It wasn't just a "past" problem.... TommyT139 Yesterday #43

The "establishment" lol awesomerwb1 Yesterday #5

Actually, if I lived in Maine, I'd work my heart out for him. n/t ariadne0614 Yesterday #26

Good for you. I'm sure questionable people like this crazy dude need the money awesomerwb1 Yesterday #30

It's seriously difficult to imagine watching this interview and concluding he's crazy. ariadne0614 Yesterday #31

It's not. Do you like his Nazi tattoo as well? awesomerwb1 Yesterday #33

Is that a serious question? ariadne0614 Yesterday #36

lol Of course he's gonna "own up" awesomerwb1 Yesterday #38

Because Trump has made owning up all the fashion on the Nazi side of the equation. ariadne0614 Yesterday #63

He did plenty of stupid stuff when he was over 30, too. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #64

He isn't just turning 21! mr715 Yesterday #82

It's cute how you think you're the first one to "introduce" awesomerwb1 Yesterday #66

His opponent, Janet Mills: Jack Valentino 18 hrs ago #120

I'm sure they would make me cringe. ariadne0614 Yesterday #70

"This doesn't sound like something your average Nazi would do." lol what WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #51

as if he and his mommy aren't the establishment thebigidea Yesterday #89

Remember when Fetterman was the be all to save all..... Historic NY Yesterday #9

My gut told me from the beginning that there was something off about Fetterman. ariadne0614 Yesterday #13

So you didn't agree with the judgement of Sanders regarding Fetterman but say we should trust his judgement here? W_HAMILTON Yesterday #44

I never once saw him that way. I saw him clearly for what he is. Autumn Yesterday #23

I'm more impressed... 2naSalit Yesterday #15

I'm sure Governor Mills is a fine person. ariadne0614 Yesterday #19

Are you... 2naSalit Yesterday #20

No, I'm just an American who would love to see Democrats take back the Senate. n/t ariadne0614 Yesterday #27

Age-baiting is so last generation Torchlight 6 hrs ago #135

Mills is the AIPAC candidate and so whoever the republican nominee will be aipac supported questionseverything Yesterday #34

Maine Senate Race Moves To Toss Up With Mills' Entrance LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #84

He's drawing crowds of elderly people leftstreet Yesterday #18

Interesting. I didn't use my gut to find information on endorsements. ariadne0614 Yesterday #28

"...on both sides..." TommyT139 Yesterday #46

Yes! ariadne0614 Yesterday #49

I was referring TommyT139 Yesterday #92

I think its more like, he is the key to ensuring Susan Collins gets another term FascismIsDeath Yesterday #35

Perhaps not. ariadne0614 Yesterday #59

Some people say he rzemanfl Yesterday #37

I don't understand "one white guy who can save the Democratic Party from itself." betsuni Yesterday #39

In 2007 a Marine Gunnery Sgt. estimated that 92% of about 8,000 Marines rzemanfl Yesterday #40

You get that it was a very specific skull and crossbones that was a hallmark of the SS, right? Not the Jolly Roger? WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #45

I have not seen a picture. Have you? rzemanfl Yesterday #54

I'm familiar with the totenkopf, and the video and screenshots that went around a lot last October make it clear that's WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #57

This tattoo? Quite plainly the SS-Totenkopf tattoo EX500rider Yesterday #61

Agreed. n/t rzemanfl Yesterday #68

I agree the tattoo is a Nazi Death Head (totenkopf). rzemanfl Yesterday #73

Seriously? Cirsium Yesterday #88

Thank you. rzemanfl Yesterday #91

Hey, thanks for listening in good faith. WhiskeyGrinder 21 hrs ago #100

Maybe the tattooist rzemanfl 21 hrs ago #109

They said the same about John Fetterman. W_HAMILTON Yesterday #41

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Yesterday #42

I doubt his crowds are "Genocide Joe" people leftstreet Yesterday #47

Another start at the top political con. delisen Yesterday #50

If I recall the same views were expressed how Fetterman was the "great liberal hope" over the "establishment" lostincalifornia Yesterday #53

I don't live in Maine mountain grammy Yesterday #56

I do live in Maine chelsea0011 Yesterday #93

Thank you for your response. I have a couple of questions. mountain grammy 23 hrs ago #95

All that matters to me right now is winning elections BannonsLiver Yesterday #69

Judging from only this one interview, I think he would agree with you. n/t ariadne0614 Yesterday #71

This is why we have primaries. nt mr715 Yesterday #74

He is problematic. mr715 Yesterday #76

lol no, I want someone without Nazi tats, who doesn't hit women and who didn't work as a mercenary obamanut2012 Yesterday #77

MaddowBlog-Maine's Graham Platner faces difficult questions about his record -- and a tattoo LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #83

This post, on its own, would give pause to any reasonable voter. ariadne0614 20 hrs ago #113

I watched the entire video, I like him. Americanme Yesterday #86

I don't believe in saviors, I believe in passing legislation that helps my family thebigidea Yesterday #87

I don't believe in saviors either. ariadne0614 21 hrs ago #105

Curious MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #90

If Democrats win back the Senate, the pressure will come from fed up We the People. n/t ariadne0614 Yesterday #94

Do you truly believe that tsf would actually sign it or... sheshe2 21 hrs ago #104

Yup, we need both the House and Senate. n/t ariadne0614 20 hrs ago #114

That's not enough if the president won't sign it. sheshe2 18 hrs ago #118

Call me delusional, but if our side regains the Senate and House, then anything is possible if ariadne0614 21 hrs ago #103

Sorry. This is the kind of unicorn thinking that turned me off of the Sanders movement. Blasphemer 18 hrs ago #121

History mr715 4 hrs ago #140

Could be the right messenger at the right time + the cumulative decades of effort. ariadne0614 2 hrs ago #145

Could be, but you don't need to be a Senator to lead. mr715 2 hrs ago #146

The DSCC and Janet Mills have formed a joint fundraising committee together. LetMyPeopleVote 23 hrs ago #96

Sincere question. ariadne0614 21 hrs ago #99

I am Jewish and have an issue with someone with a NAZI tattoo LetMyPeopleVote 21 hrs ago #107

I have deep respect your preference. ariadne0614 21 hrs ago #112

I don't understand the "one white guy" headline. Was that in an article or something? marmar 21 hrs ago #98

Fair question. ariadne0614 21 hrs ago #101

Look up stories from last year about his choice of tattoos. Iggo 7 hrs ago #129

I'll be voting for Janet Mill's in the primary. If your candidate wins, I will vote for him. OAITW r.2.0 21 hrs ago #102

Makes perfect sense to me. n/t ariadne0614 21 hrs ago #106

Ranked Choice voting,,,,democracy in action. OAITW r.2.0 21 hrs ago #111

I'm all in favor of ranked choice voting. ariadne0614 20 hrs ago #115

Gov. MAGA Paul got elected in Maine when 60+% voted for two other candidates..... OAITW r.2.0 20 hrs ago #116

Oh boy! Let the rebranding begin! Iggo 20 hrs ago #117

Still? Really? Has Trump taught us nothing. Gimme a break. nt Blasphemer 18 hrs ago #119

Running against the Democratic Party: Establishment beholden to corporate interests ignore working class, both sides. betsuni 16 hrs ago #122

Dude had a nazi tattoo on his chest for years. Got called out last year and covered it up. Iggo 7 hrs ago #128

Only got called out because there was a video of him running around shirtless during a wedding reception that surfaced MichMan 6 hrs ago #130

Looking at his background, I would venture he's a Repub plant Just_Vote_Dem 8 hrs ago #125

I'm guessing there's more than one... whathehell 8 hrs ago #126

You're absolutely right. ariadne0614 6 hrs ago #131

I take issue with a repeated point you are making. mr715 4 hrs ago #139

Is this a trial balloon or is this the actual roll-out? Iggo 3 hrs ago #141

It would surprise me if you thought he was intellectually deficient if you listened to the interview. ariadne0614 3 hrs ago #142

Belief that working class are white men (who Democrats are accused of ignoring in favor of "identity politics"): betsuni 3 hrs ago #143

nazi tattoo + Blackwater employment nope waddirum 6 hrs ago #132

I appreciate your input. ariadne0614 6 hrs ago #134

it's on his wiki page EX500rider 5 hrs ago #137

Thank you very much. ariadne0614 4 hrs ago #138