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Cirsium

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94. That is the problem

Thu Jan 22, 2026, 01:48 PM

13 hrs ago

They can't believe what good luck they're having?

That's the problem. The worse things get for us us, the better it is for them. Our misfortune is their good fortune.

That is true for a small army of people - politicians, consultants, pod casters, MSM pundits. Fascism is good for business.

What was it Carville recommended? Playing 'possum?

That approach is what brought us to where we are.

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Have Schumer and Jefferies forgotten how to hold a press conference? [View all] Chasstev365 19 hrs ago OP

Whatever they ARE doing, it's not enough. It's ridiculous they aren't capitalizing on this moment of abject madness by LymphocyteLover 19 hrs ago #1

I agree. Alliepoo 13 hrs ago #92

Schumer and Jeffries can't believe what good luck they're having bucolic_frolic 19 hrs ago #2

People are gonna vote for a party led by the "timid". AloeVera 19 hrs ago #6

Yeah, because timidity has been such a triumph for Democrats, all these years. Paladin 18 hrs ago #18

Post removed Post removed 17 hrs ago #44

They're still "keeping the powder dry". Still. FoxNewsSucks 5 hrs ago #168

Making themselves a target for MAGA and FauxNoise does nothing bucolic_frolic 14 hrs ago #88

Making themselves a target? Cirsium 13 hrs ago #98

I don't think they're exercising sound strategy. Alliepoo 13 hrs ago #99

This message was self-deleted by its author Javaman 17 hrs ago #23

Why did any dem vote for any of TSF's nominees? n/t returnee 16 hrs ago #71

exactly. nt Javaman 16 hrs ago #72

Good question. NT Bozvotros 12 hrs ago #118

I think you're confusing him with Se. Cory Booker.. people in the House don't vote to approve apointees. LymphocyteLover 12 hrs ago #111

THANK YOU. maxsolomon 11 hrs ago #124

I stand corrected. I will pull my thread. :) nt Javaman 9 hrs ago #137

The Supreme Court's decision to allow unlimited campaign donations and dark money Bozvotros 12 hrs ago #117

No, Hakeem Jeffries did not vote to confirm Kushner as ambassador to France. lapucelle 11 hrs ago #125

I know that's their strategy but I don't agree with it. yardwork 17 hrs ago #33

If timid was the right strategy, he would never have gotten a Tadpole Raisin 17 hrs ago #43

i think this is milquetoast. Hieronymus Phact 17 hrs ago #46

Yeah, right choie 16 hrs ago #61

True.. agingdem 16 hrs ago #67

Wishful thinking Cirsium 12 hrs ago #101

So we are fighting Trump/Republicans with Quietness & Timidity? OK, Got it! Ars Longa 16 hrs ago #69

Agreed. RoseTrellis 15 hrs ago #80

Absurd Cirsium 12 hrs ago #104

I get it, but... SpankMe 15 hrs ago #83

This is NOT a sound strategy. How about talking about compassion, empathy and pounding on the moral compass? n/t PatrickforB 14 hrs ago #84

I think you forgot the Alliepoo 13 hrs ago #93

That is the problem Cirsium 13 hrs ago #94

You answered your own question with Soul_of_Wit 13 hrs ago #96

The flip side of that line of thought is Dems need to peak in November, not now. bucolic_frolic 13 hrs ago #100

Peak? Cirsium 12 hrs ago #103

Yes, I'm sure that's what they are doing but as others here have pointed out, that safe strategy is not enough for our LymphocyteLover 12 hrs ago #113

Because that strategy was SO successful in 2024 . . . markpkessinger 11 hrs ago #123

I agree with this, however oldmanlynn 3 hrs ago #176

There's an old saying SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #3

And, the fact that they are also shooting other people while they are shooting themselves in the foot is okay? OldBaldy1701E 17 hrs ago #24

So what is the solution? SocialDemocrat61 16 hrs ago #73

Obvious Cirsium 12 hrs ago #108

Can you be more specific? SocialDemocrat61 11 hrs ago #120

About what? Cirsium 9 hrs ago #141

About stopping Trump and republicans SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #143

The sea lion is here. Scrivener7 8 hrs ago #150

If there are better spokespeople JBTaurus83 16 hrs ago #57

Two different skill sets SocialDemocrat61 16 hrs ago #75

Press the advantage Cirsium 12 hrs ago #105

How? SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #119

LOL Cirsium 7 hrs ago #156

How do they press the advantage? SocialDemocrat61 7 hrs ago #157

Addressed elsewhere Cirsium 6 hrs ago #161

Where? SocialDemocrat61 6 hrs ago #163

Why? Cirsium 2 hrs ago #178

What's the old saying for when they're murdering Americans with impunity? Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #127

They are not shooting anyone in the foot. They are shooting people in the eye and in the face. Autumn 10 hrs ago #130

And what is your solution? SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #132

What is yours? Please be specific. Scrivener7 9 hrs ago #134

Nice deflection SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #135

Can I solve this? What kind of moronic question is that? Of course I can't. Scrivener7 9 hrs ago #140

Maybe because every suggestion is to blame democrats SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #142

Every single suggestion. Every single time. Scrivener7 9 hrs ago #144

And what are they? SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #145

'When your enemy is shooting themself in the foot, let them and don't get in the way'. Rigpa108 1 hr ago #179

I think... myohmy2 19 hrs ago #4

And the files.... Have to remember that Epstein was a big Democratic Party supporter and financial guy. LiberalArkie 18 hrs ago #19

Get another job, then. JBTaurus83 16 hrs ago #59

What makes you think those who aren't paying attention JI7 19 hrs ago #5

Nothing Ventured,...... Etc. ColoringFool 17 hrs ago #28

You're gonna get scolded for your lack of faith Orrex 19 hrs ago #7

Can you give us a recap of today's press conference and your thoughts on it? W_HAMILTON 12 hrs ago #110

It called"just let him rave and rant" strategy. Ray Bruns 19 hrs ago #8

I think nine years of rope should be sufficient - werdna 18 hrs ago #17

He's in the office because someone's eggs were supposedly to expensive. (Which is bullshit). Ray Bruns 17 hrs ago #48

Yeah, No. More Like A Bungee Cord. ColoringFool 17 hrs ago #30

Yeah choie 16 hrs ago #63

They are keeping all of Bettie 19 hrs ago #9

Or maybe these guys just aren't that smart. Bluetus 13 hrs ago #90

I don't know what is up with it all Bettie 13 hrs ago #95

Citizen's United isn't just for Republicans Bluetus 9 hrs ago #133

Exactly correct Bettie 8 hrs ago #147

"Oh Bullwinkle, that strongly worded letter never works" gay texan 19 hrs ago #10

Fan mail Cirsium 12 hrs ago #107

Something is very wrong with the Dem leadership right now. Baitball Blogger 19 hrs ago #11

Equal Opportunity Epstein Files? 🤔 🧐 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷‍♀️🤷 ColoringFool 17 hrs ago #31

Fuck speeches, gab13by13 18 hrs ago #12

With things this bad, this dangerous in our country democrank 18 hrs ago #13

DemDUer's with absolute opposite opinions- in the end I sure hope we all pull on the same rope. NoMoreRepugs 18 hrs ago #14

We will angrychair 16 hrs ago #64

No choice Cirsium 12 hrs ago #112

Yes, every single day! n/t werdna 18 hrs ago #15

They are good back room leaders, not charismatic Johonny 18 hrs ago #16

Gavin. AOC. MIA: Obama, Big Bill, Gore, Dean, HRC..... ColoringFool 17 hrs ago #34

We will win - because victory will come to us in due time - if we pray hard and wait long enough. dalton99a 18 hrs ago #20

I've Been Waiting Since, Oh, 1963. ColoringFool 17 hrs ago #36

Jeffries says God is still on the Throne! JBTaurus83 16 hrs ago #60

Well, God did outlast Hitler and He will outlast Trump. dalton99a 16 hrs ago #62

Fair point JBTaurus83 16 hrs ago #66

I don't remember god climbing down off his throne to help the people the Nazis murdered. Autumn 10 hrs ago #131

Cory Booker Gingermolly 17 hrs ago #21

I think they are waiting. Autumn 17 hrs ago #22

in a time when we are surrounded by madness... Javaman 17 hrs ago #25

Ah, the magic fighting spirit press conference that Americans huddled 'round the TV like in the '60s betsuni 17 hrs ago #26

Well, There WAS That "I Have A Dream" Speech. Plus,... ColoringFool 17 hrs ago #37

Not press conferences. betsuni 8 hrs ago #149

Waiting for the "rope" portion of the 'rope-a-dope' program? 🤷‍♀️ littlemissmartypants 17 hrs ago #27

IMO Abstractartist 17 hrs ago #29

I agree. BUT 4bonhoffer 17 hrs ago #32

Then Our Guys Need To Actually CHALLENGE THE MEDIA, DARE THEM TO ... ColoringFool 17 hrs ago #39

Schumer and Jeffries are pussies maliaSmith 17 hrs ago #35

Wrong word. Easterncedar 17 hrs ago #54

pussies are TOUGH Skittles 4 hrs ago #172

LAME "LEADERS" Clouds Passing 17 hrs ago #38

Just what we need. murielm99 17 hrs ago #40

There is a legitimate disagreement Cirsium 12 hrs ago #114

I don't much care for murielm99 11 hrs ago #121

Fine Cirsium 9 hrs ago #138

Makes me appreciate and support Democrats all the more! betsuni 7 hrs ago #152

Absolutely LittleGirl 17 hrs ago #41

I don't think seeing them wobble around is going to be very inspiring LR3 17 hrs ago #42

There are lots of Dems in both houses who would be much tougher than those two. ratchiweenie 17 hrs ago #45

Should be out there every DAMN DAY, especially Jefferies Joinfortmill 17 hrs ago #47

+1. Seriously. What the fuck are they doing? dalton99a 17 hrs ago #51

Think they will slowly ramp up as we get into Spring. Citizens attention span is as long as a hummingbirds wing flap n/t Cheezoholic 17 hrs ago #49

Good grief. 🙄🥱 QueerDuck 17 hrs ago #50

Pot meet kettle Cirsium 12 hrs ago #115

Oh, really? Tell me more. QueerDuck 12 hrs ago #116

No thanks Cirsium 7 hrs ago #154

Yeah, I figured as much. 🙄 QueerDuck 7 hrs ago #155

New definition of "divisive": supporting Democrats. betsuni 7 hrs ago #159

I do too. It's BS. It stinks. Sigh. QueerDuck 6 hrs ago #164

sound advice during normal times Skittles 4 hrs ago #173

K&R spanone 17 hrs ago #52

Timid gets us every other election when we should be Tadpole Raisin 17 hrs ago #53

Could not agree more karin_sj 17 hrs ago #55

I'm very proud of we the people JBTaurus83 16 hrs ago #56

Pelosi held regular conferences at least during Covid ALBliberal 16 hrs ago #58

Not a Cuomo fan, but I appreciated his daily pressers during Covid JonAndKatePlusABird 16 hrs ago #68

Same. ALBliberal 15 hrs ago #81

When your enemy is making a mistake, don't interrupt him. hay rick 16 hrs ago #65

Would you feel this same way justaprogressive 16 hrs ago #70

It looks to me like Sun Tzu agrees with me (and himself since I borrowed his point). hay rick 15 hrs ago #77

DURec leftstreet 16 hrs ago #74

So many topics to cover. Unambiguous topics! yellow dahlia 16 hrs ago #76

I think leadership and the consultant class... OneGrassRoot 15 hrs ago #78

Consultant advice so far seems to be silence and prayerful meditation. dalton99a 15 hrs ago #82

Morning rant. TALK IS CHEAP. Show me the action. usonian 15 hrs ago #79

It is sad Quanto Magnus 14 hrs ago #85

If we are to win the midterms Scubamatt 14 hrs ago #86

It's a losing strategy to be quiet and timid danieljsf 14 hrs ago #87

Au contraire , They want to talk about bipartisanship to solve the affordability crisis. flashman13 13 hrs ago #89

Ironic that as Jeffries is giving a press conference right now, no one here is talking about it. W_HAMILTON 13 hrs ago #91

"Maybe those that wanted a press conference so badly can start a live thread here now to discuss it?" LudwigPastorius 13 hrs ago #97

Hear, hear BaronChocula 12 hrs ago #109

Then it's "Finally breaking their silence" -- they totally want a press conference, just not THAT press conference. betsuni 8 hrs ago #148

Two things can be true at once senseandsensibility 12 hrs ago #102

Here creeksneakers2 12 hrs ago #106

Thank you. betsuni 6 hrs ago #160

Never let the facts SocialDemocrat61 5 hrs ago #171

Probably keeping their powder dry. malthaussen 11 hrs ago #122

... orangecrush 8 hrs ago #146

that's why we are not in power. trump would have been spouting crap and lies, but he samsingh 11 hrs ago #126

Spineless! Useless! North Coast Lawyer 10 hrs ago #128

Apparently they are. Evolve Dammit 10 hrs ago #129

Holding a press conference would take more courage than either one of them has. red dog 1 9 hrs ago #136

They're discussing it with Merrick Garland as we speak. Lucky Luciano 9 hrs ago #139

The lack of leadership is unbelievable!! Both can go as far as I'm concerned. Pisces 7 hrs ago #151

Maybe Groundhawg 7 hrs ago #153

But then they'd have to take a position on something. DJ Synikus Makisimus 7 hrs ago #158

They learned their triangulation from the best... regnaD kciN 6 hrs ago #162

Then lose in 2028 and wonder why, mr715 5 hrs ago #166

Exactly. And as one of those liberals FoxNewsSucks 5 hrs ago #169

Clear from this thread that nobody knows flamingdem 5 hrs ago #165

Oh, dear. Someone suggested that the leadership do more in the face of the existential crisis Scrivener7 5 hrs ago #167

Did they EVER 'KNOW how to hold one' in this particular situation ??? Jack Valentino 5 hrs ago #170

Exactly VGuerra276 4 hrs ago #174

Schumer and Jeffries are passive pushovers flying-skeleton 3 hrs ago #175

Bravo! Bread and Circuses 2 hrs ago #177