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18. old enough to remember Pres. Biden promoting his signing of the CHIPS Act that enabled this event

Fri Jan 23, 2026, 01:54 PM

Jan 2026

...it's amazing that people here don't have a clue about how bipartisan legislation advances Democratic initiatives and principles, supposing like they've just arrived in the political arena that contradicting a republican crashing an event and trying to usurp Democratic credit is some kind of cover for them.

It's only possible if you take Seder at his word that this happened. It's contradicted in EVERY other news report of the event, most of whom acknowledge in some way that Lutnick is full of it.

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If we let ratfuckers like Sam Seder lead us around, we can expect the same result he fought for last election [View all] bigtree Jan 2026 OP

Absolute bullshit BeyondGeography Jan 2026 #1

fuck the clip bigtree Jan 2026 #2

And thanks for giving me the chance to clear this up in a separate thread BeyondGeography Jan 2026 #4

you didn't clear anything up by defending Seder bigtree Jan 2026 #5

the hate for Schumer expressed by some won't stop the misinformation. Just look how many are too willing to lostincalifornia Jan 2026 #6

it's infuriating to me at this point bigtree Jan 2026 #7

I am afraid that many people are "sheep-like", easily led into false conclusions without insuring its verdacity. lostincalifornia Jan 2026 #8

It is way too late to be defending schumer. That ship sailed a long time ago. Bluetus Jan 2026 #33

lol bigtree Jan 2026 #43

The first step is acknowledging we have a problem Bluetus Jan 2026 #53

stupid people voting for a convicted felon bigtree Jan 2026 #54

Stupid people voting for a convicted felon need Bluetus Jan 2026 #56

"why people hate the Democrats just as much as they hate Trump?' bigtree Jan 2026 #57

It ABSOLUTELY IS supporting the cause of Democrats Bluetus Jan 2026 #58

well, make certain the effort doesn't result in a deficit bigtree Jan 2026 #60

I get your point, but I don't agree Bluetus Jan 2026 #61

they were quasi republicans bigtree Jan 2026 #63

Agreed. But NONE of those things matter when we lose our Constitution and rule of law Bluetus Jan 2026 #65

we need to organize a majority, period bigtree Jan 2026 #66

That requires the "big tent" people to put their agendas aside. Bluetus Jan 2026 #67

I go back to that majority you want bigtree Jan 2026 #68

We cannot get that majority when 5% of our caucus is free to sabotage the efforts of 95% Bluetus Jan 2026 #69

that has nothing to do with the voting bigtree Jan 2026 #70

You are denying reality Bluetus Jan 2026 #71

it's a binary choice between a man and a party that's either trying to own you or kill you bigtree Jan 2026 #72

If all voters were like you and me, there would be no problem Bluetus Jan 2026 #73

most people don't like to be subjected to bondage, thievery, and abuse at the hands of their government bigtree Jan 2026 #74

I completely agree. MineralMan Jan 2026 #16

It's sickening. MorbidButterflyTat Jan 2026 #62

The clip is the issue Cirsium Jan 2026 #10

that's nonsense bigtree Jan 2026 #12

Disagree if you like Cirsium Jan 2026 #26

you know I'm talking about the premise that Schumer covered here for Lutnick bigtree Jan 2026 #27

Schumer thinks he did Cirsium Jan 2026 #29

you've misrepresented the event and Schumer's remarks bigtree Jan 2026 #32

We disagree Cirsium Jan 2026 #34

I didn't claim you lied. I was talking about Seder bigtree Jan 2026 #36

Seder? Cirsium Jan 2026 #38

Seder provided the clip that we're all referencing bigtree Jan 2026 #41

What difference does that make? Cirsium Jan 2026 #44

the true source is the event bigtree Jan 2026 #45

Nothing new Cirsium Jan 2026 #49

Thanks for the clip FHRRK Jan 2026 #14

it's not a full clip of the event. It's edited to make the bullshit claim bigtree Jan 2026 #20

Of course Cirsium Jan 2026 #52

If Seder a Bernie bro by any chance? awesomerwb1 Jan 2026 #3

No question Cirsium Jan 2026 #9

that's just false. bigtree Jan 2026 #13

Not much of a contradiction Cirsium Jan 2026 #23

Lutnick crashed the event to try and take credit. bigtree Jan 2026 #24

So? Cirsium Jan 2026 #28

Schumer correctly pointed out that those weren't Democratic or republican jobs, they are American jobs bigtree Jan 2026 #39

Exactly right, but blue MAGA is a thing so here we are nt Rob H. Jan 2026 #15

Must keep audience outraged at Dems even when not in charge, no matter what. Any lie okay! betsuni Jan 2026 #11

Except it isn't a lie FHRRK Jan 2026 #17

he promoted the DEMOCRATIC legislation that enabled the event Lutnick was crashing bigtree Jan 2026 #19

old enough to remember Pres. Biden promoting his signing of the CHIPS Act that enabled this event bigtree Jan 2026 #18

I don't know if it was IRA or BBB mr715 Jan 2026 #25

that's exactly right bigtree Jan 2026 #31

Couldn't disagree with you more ABC123Easy Jan 2026 #21

Schumer is responsible for ALL of the legislative accomplishments in the Senate in the Biden term bigtree Jan 2026 #22

The obsession that leaders must convince voters of things anyone with common sense knows betsuni Jan 2026 #30

it's amazing how much they whine about these Democrats not convincing them to do what they should already recognize bigtree Jan 2026 #35

Some might be misdirected anger because the promised political revolution. betsuni Jan 2026 #47

the promises of anarchists bigtree Jan 2026 #50

Schumer ABC123Easy Jan 2026 #40

what failure is Schumer supposed to be responsible for? bigtree Jan 2026 #42

Hahaha ABC123Easy Jan 2026 #51

you're claiming he's responsible for the losses bigtree Jan 2026 #55

MAGA vs Leftists Indykatie Jan 2026 #37

You can jump up and down and waive your arms and stamp your feet. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2026 #46

you can't see from the distance you're looking at it bigtree Jan 2026 #48

Seder is very right sometimes and horribly wrong others.... not sure you should apply the word "rat" in the context.... FascismIsDeath Jan 2026 #59

that's a stretch, I think bigtree Jan 2026 #64