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69. We cannot get that majority when 5% of our caucus is free to sabotage the efforts of 95%

Sat Jan 24, 2026, 12:54 AM

Jan 24

30 years ago, 50% of the public identified as Democrats. Today, only 25% identify Dem. That's not because their political philosophy changed. It is because they think we can't make good on any of our promises.

We cannot get to a governing majority until we have leadership that can hold people together enough to deliver the results that Americans want.

I really don't understand how you think we are going to get to 60 Senators without having much stronger leadership and much better message clarity and much better discipline. And God forbid we should have a "litmus test" that any Senate candidate must be willing to end the archaic filibuster rule.

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If we let ratfuckers like Sam Seder lead us around, we can expect the same result he fought for last election [View all] bigtree Jan 23 OP

Absolute bullshit BeyondGeography Jan 23 #1

fuck the clip bigtree Jan 23 #2

And thanks for giving me the chance to clear this up in a separate thread BeyondGeography Jan 23 #4

you didn't clear anything up by defending Seder bigtree Jan 23 #5

the hate for Schumer expressed by some won't stop the misinformation. Just look how many are too willing to lostincalifornia Jan 23 #6

it's infuriating to me at this point bigtree Jan 23 #7

I am afraid that many people are "sheep-like", easily led into false conclusions without insuring its verdacity. lostincalifornia Jan 23 #8

It is way too late to be defending schumer. That ship sailed a long time ago. Bluetus Jan 23 #33

lol bigtree Jan 23 #43

The first step is acknowledging we have a problem Bluetus Jan 23 #53

stupid people voting for a convicted felon bigtree Jan 23 #54

Stupid people voting for a convicted felon need Bluetus Jan 23 #56

"why people hate the Democrats just as much as they hate Trump?' bigtree Jan 23 #57

It ABSOLUTELY IS supporting the cause of Democrats Bluetus Jan 23 #58

well, make certain the effort doesn't result in a deficit bigtree Jan 23 #60

I get your point, but I don't agree Bluetus Jan 23 #61

they were quasi republicans bigtree Jan 23 #63

Agreed. But NONE of those things matter when we lose our Constitution and rule of law Bluetus Jan 23 #65

we need to organize a majority, period bigtree Jan 23 #66

That requires the "big tent" people to put their agendas aside. Bluetus Jan 23 #67

I go back to that majority you want bigtree Jan 24 #68

We cannot get that majority when 5% of our caucus is free to sabotage the efforts of 95% Bluetus Jan 24 #69

that has nothing to do with the voting bigtree Jan 24 #70

You are denying reality Bluetus Jan 24 #71

it's a binary choice between a man and a party that's either trying to own you or kill you bigtree Jan 24 #72

If all voters were like you and me, there would be no problem Bluetus Jan 24 #73

most people don't like to be subjected to bondage, thievery, and abuse at the hands of their government bigtree Jan 24 #74

I completely agree. MineralMan Jan 23 #16

It's sickening. MorbidButterflyTat Jan 23 #62

The clip is the issue Cirsium Jan 23 #10

that's nonsense bigtree Jan 23 #12

Disagree if you like Cirsium Jan 23 #26

you know I'm talking about the premise that Schumer covered here for Lutnick bigtree Jan 23 #27

Schumer thinks he did Cirsium Jan 23 #29

you've misrepresented the event and Schumer's remarks bigtree Jan 23 #32

We disagree Cirsium Jan 23 #34

I didn't claim you lied. I was talking about Seder bigtree Jan 23 #36

Seder? Cirsium Jan 23 #38

Seder provided the clip that we're all referencing bigtree Jan 23 #41

What difference does that make? Cirsium Jan 23 #44

the true source is the event bigtree Jan 23 #45

Nothing new Cirsium Jan 23 #49

Thanks for the clip FHRRK Jan 23 #14

it's not a full clip of the event. It's edited to make the bullshit claim bigtree Jan 23 #20

Of course Cirsium Jan 23 #52

If Seder a Bernie bro by any chance? awesomerwb1 Jan 23 #3

No question Cirsium Jan 23 #9

that's just false. bigtree Jan 23 #13

Not much of a contradiction Cirsium Jan 23 #23

Lutnick crashed the event to try and take credit. bigtree Jan 23 #24

So? Cirsium Jan 23 #28

Schumer correctly pointed out that those weren't Democratic or republican jobs, they are American jobs bigtree Jan 23 #39

Exactly right, but blue MAGA is a thing so here we are nt Rob H. Jan 23 #15

Must keep audience outraged at Dems even when not in charge, no matter what. Any lie okay! betsuni Jan 23 #11

Except it isn't a lie FHRRK Jan 23 #17

he promoted the DEMOCRATIC legislation that enabled the event Lutnick was crashing bigtree Jan 23 #19

old enough to remember Pres. Biden promoting his signing of the CHIPS Act that enabled this event bigtree Jan 23 #18

I don't know if it was IRA or BBB mr715 Jan 23 #25

that's exactly right bigtree Jan 23 #31

Couldn't disagree with you more ABC123Easy Jan 23 #21

Schumer is responsible for ALL of the legislative accomplishments in the Senate in the Biden term bigtree Jan 23 #22

The obsession that leaders must convince voters of things anyone with common sense knows betsuni Jan 23 #30

it's amazing how much they whine about these Democrats not convincing them to do what they should already recognize bigtree Jan 23 #35

Some might be misdirected anger because the promised political revolution. betsuni Jan 23 #47

the promises of anarchists bigtree Jan 23 #50

Schumer ABC123Easy Jan 23 #40

what failure is Schumer supposed to be responsible for? bigtree Jan 23 #42

Hahaha ABC123Easy Jan 23 #51

you're claiming he's responsible for the losses bigtree Jan 23 #55

MAGA vs Leftists Indykatie Jan 23 #37

You can jump up and down and waive your arms and stamp your feet. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 23 #46

you can't see from the distance you're looking at it bigtree Jan 23 #48

Seder is very right sometimes and horribly wrong others.... not sure you should apply the word "rat" in the context.... FascismIsDeath Jan 23 #59

that's a stretch, I think bigtree Jan 23 #64