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AverageOldGuy

(3,444 posts)
26. Asking my DU colleagues:
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 02:11 PM
13 hrs ago

From this moment on, when referring to the organization formerly known as "ICE," refer to them only as "Gestapo." No more "ICE." And if you wish to refer to Stephen Miller as "Hermann Göring" . . .

Not familiar with the Gestapo, here is the Wikipedia article (footnotes and references are in the Wikipedia article).


The Geheime Staatspolizei ([ɡəˈhaɪmə ˈʃtaːtspoliˌtsaɪ] ⓘ, lit. 'Secret State Police', abbreviated Gestapo [ɡəˈstaːpo] ⓘ ,[3] was the official secret police of Nazi Germany and in German-occupied Europe.

The force was created by Hermann Göring in 1933 by combining the various political police agencies of Prussia into one organisation. On 20 April 1934, oversight of the Gestapo passed to the head of the Schutzstaffel (SS), Heinrich Himmler, who was also appointed Chief of German Police by Hitler in 1936. Instead of being exclusively a Prussian state agency, the Gestapo became a national one as a sub-office of the Sicherheitspolizei (SiPo; Security Police). From 27 September 1939, it was administered by the Reich Security Main Office (RSHA). It became known as Amt (Dept) 4 of the RSHA and was considered a sister organisation to the Sicherheitsdienst (SD; Security Service).

The Gestapo committed widespread atrocities during its existence. The power of the Gestapo was used to focus upon political opponents, ideological dissenters (clergy and religious organisations), career criminals, the Sinti and Roma population, handicapped persons, homosexuals, and, above all, the Jews.[4] Those arrested by the Gestapo were often held without judicial process, and political prisoners throughout Germany—and from 1941, throughout the occupied territories under the Night and Fog Decree (German: Nacht und Nebel)—simply disappeared while in Gestapo custody.[5] Contrary to popular perception, the Gestapo was actually a relatively small organization with limited surveillance capability; still it proved extremely effective due to the willingness of ordinary Germans to report on fellow citizens. During World War II, the Gestapo played a key role in the Holocaust. After the war ended, the Gestapo was declared a criminal organisation by the International Military Tribunal (IMT) at the Nuremberg trials, and several top Gestapo members were sentenced to death.[6]

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The guy's armed with a camera phone. Kid Berwyn 14 hrs ago #1
The more they try to silence us, the more we speak up and stand up. n/t yellow dahlia 14 hrs ago #16
EXACTLY!!!!!! IT WAS A FAWKING PHONE!!!!! a kennedy 9 hrs ago #57
Has his name been released? MagickMuffin 14 hrs ago #2
Alex Pretti. ShazzieB 4 hrs ago #62
Yeah, I already know the details MagickMuffin 3 hrs ago #63
Camera as Deadly Weapon leftstreet 14 hrs ago #3
I know. He was just being a rigorous citizen, and now he is dead. yellow dahlia 14 hrs ago #14
MPD Chief confirmed that he was a lawful gun owner with a permit to carry Prairie Gates 14 hrs ago #4
Yup. He was exercising his 2A rights. herding cats 14 hrs ago #5
Exactly. yellow dahlia 14 hrs ago #11
Trump: "HE HAD A GUN, ONLY CRIMINALS CARRY GUNS ON OUR STREETS, WE NEED LAW AND ORDER." Ol Janx Spirit 2 hrs ago #67
NRA is too busy licking boots to be alarmed by such things quakerboy 15 min ago #70
Good Guy RobinA 13 hrs ago #22
We see no gun in either hand... Camera in right hand and left hand is empty (see bluesky video below) liberalla 13 hrs ago #34
DHS is claiming he walked up to agents with weapon drawn. Per MS NOW. Solly Mack 14 hrs ago #6
Don't believe your lying eyes. yellow dahlia 14 hrs ago #10
Damn eyes. Solly Mack 14 hrs ago #13
He had a gun that he was wearing a holster at the time. ShazzieB 3 hrs ago #64
Disgusting people. Solly Mack 3 hrs ago #66
Those fuckers at MSN censor every comment I make wolfie001 13 hrs ago #25
It's a digital pocket camera. People have been using these so as not to risk their phones. SunSeeker 13 hrs ago #32
Oooo, thanks for the reminder, I think I have 2 of those lil oldies but goodies around here. Attilatheblond 13 hrs ago #35
Thanks! Either way, not "brandishing" a gun. Solly Mack 13 hrs ago #36
The benefit to using a phone is being able to upload to the cloud as you record EdmondDantes_ 13 hrs ago #38
Download the SD card files in your phone via an adaptor dongle, when you are safely at home or in your car. nt SunSeeker 13 hrs ago #41
FAWK DHS!!!!!! IT WAS A FAWKING PHONE!!!!! a kennedy 9 hrs ago #58
Yeah, because everyone knows swearing bothers me. lol Solly Mack 4 hrs ago #61
It's a Rebl2 9 hrs ago #59
It's a weapon to the thugs because it exposes their actions. Solly Mack 4 hrs ago #60
Oh, man Lulu KC 14 hrs ago #7
Ill fitting child sized ballistic vest... Hugin 14 hrs ago #8
So it appears this guy was attacked and beaten for the crime of exercising his First Amendment rights. yellow dahlia 14 hrs ago #9
Blocking the door to the Donut Shop? leftstreet 14 hrs ago #18
He was on the other side of the street from the donut shop JHB 12 hrs ago #44
DHS is not to be trusted for one second. spanone 14 hrs ago #12
Kick dalton99a 14 hrs ago #15
I posted the video in an OP 10 minutes ago - see highplainsdem 14 hrs ago #17
Here.- found another Bluesky post with it: highplainsdem 14 hrs ago #19
The truth will come out. orangecrush 14 hrs ago #20
Why are these f-ers permitted to wear the word POLICE on their vests Hope22 14 hrs ago #21
This is the first time I noticed that electric_blue68 9 hrs ago #56
They were everywhere! Nt Hope22 2 hrs ago #68
I saw the various vids.... electric_blue68 2 hrs ago #69
Nazis wolfie001 13 hrs ago #23
Do NOT assume that the victim was brandishing a weapon. ICE lies, Safe as Milk 13 hrs ago #24
Asking my DU colleagues: AverageOldGuy 13 hrs ago #26
Exact. Justice matters. 13 hrs ago #37
How about Jackboots? Or Figarosmom 12 hrs ago #47
Bovino is fucking lying his ass off now on MSNOW. LuckyCharms 13 hrs ago #27
Good God! James48 13 hrs ago #29
That wee little fuck needs to be shuttled... LuckyCharms 13 hrs ago #30
And now they'll get the ammo they need to declare all-out war on us?... buzzycrumbhunger 13 hrs ago #28
Peacefully watching and recording ICE is a death sentence IronLionZion 13 hrs ago #31
Trump and his new Gestapo were in danger because he was brandishing a phone... ashredux 13 hrs ago #33
... littlemissmartypants 13 hrs ago #39
These Individuals Voted In Favor Of Continuing To Fund These ICE Murderers MayReasonRule 13 hrs ago #40
And every Republicans but one. creeksneakers2 12 hrs ago #48
I Expect It Of The Wholly Fascist Ongoing Criminal Enterprise That Is The GOP MayReasonRule 11 hrs ago #49
I want to remind everyone creeksneakers2 11 hrs ago #52
There is more video of them pulling the gun out of the victims holster before the shot him Historic NY 12 hrs ago #42
Another video, apparently from the woman in the pink coat. The man was helping people, no gun in hand. SunSeeker 12 hrs ago #43
I'd bet they didnt even know Figarosmom 12 hrs ago #45
Footage from The Guardian that shows the murder -- at least ten shots fired by my count. ancianita 12 hrs ago #46
k&r nt orleans 11 hrs ago #50
When do we start calling out the credibility gap? EnergizedLib 11 hrs ago #51
Minnesota Gun Owners Law Center is skeptical of official narrative regarding shooting CROW50 10 hrs ago #53
there are at least 2 videos circulating barbtries 10 hrs ago #54
Kick electric_blue68 10 hrs ago #55
Seems like the agent who took Pretti's gun Blue Full Moon 3 hrs ago #65
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