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EarlG

(23,453 posts)
Sat Jan 24, 2026, 02:28 PM Saturday

So let me get this straight [View all]

If you are a white, middle-aged man with a legal concealed-carry permit, who happens to be exercising your Second Amendment right to carry a firearm, then:

a) If federal agents find that holstered firearm on you in the course of wrestling you to the ground, they can shoot you dead even if you are not brandishing the firearm, your hands are empty, and you are already incapacitated.

b) The federal government will immediately, without an investigation, say the fact that you were exercising your Second Amendment right means that you are a domestic terrorist who was plotting to assassinate agents and wanted to commit a massacre.

I'll go on record saying that I'm not a pro-Second Amendment person and I think that strong gun control is the way to go. But what the feds are doing in this case is a gun-grabber fantasy the left could never even dream of.

The last time DHS smeared a US citizen who was murdered by ICE, it was an uppity lesbian who was annoying a cop by being nice to him. No fucks given on the right there, I'm sure. But how will they feel when DHS tells them that the concealed weapon they love to carry means that they're fair game to be shot by unaccountable feds anytime, anyplace, anywhere, after which the feds will smear them as domestic terrorists and cop-killers just because they were carrying?

This is Trump's base we're talking about here. How deep can the cognitive dissonance get before something snaps?

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When you consider orangecrush Saturday #1
the MAGA gun humpers won't care lapfog_1 Saturday #2
ICE & law enforcement are just vehicles to fulfill their raging need to punish the left SunImp Saturday #40
The Constitution of the United States is dead. Justice matters. Saturday #3
I think it's already snapping... buzzycrumbhunger Saturday #4
Was curious about it BaronChocula Saturday #35
Pedestrians Have the Right of Way. MineralMan Saturday #5
Thinking about you today Cirsium Saturday #37
They know how to respond to the dog whistle... EarthFirst Saturday #6
It's hard to believe the subject would have been able to pull a gun surfered Saturday #7
The gun had already been removed from his holster and taken away Lulu KC Saturday #8
And he had just been blasted in the face catchnrelease Saturday #23
And he was wearing a zipped-up, mid-thigh length winter parka, making it really difficult to go for his waistband sop Saturday #16
I don't think they'll be able to weather this assassination in the street bigtree Saturday #9
This is clearly an assault on the First Amendment right to protest, in any way, by anyone Trump views as "the enemy." sop Saturday #17
Pretti was killed catchnrelease Saturday #25
Listening to Walz this is a civil war. Klarkashton Saturday #10
Yeah, but not enough are listening. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E 17 hrs ago #56
How deep can the cognitive dissonance get before something snaps? drmeow Saturday #11
Kick dalton99a Saturday #12
"How deep can the cognitive dissonance get before something snaps?" As deep as the ingrained pathological narrative sits ancianita Saturday #13
"If only Stalin knew!!!" - THAT'S how deep the cognitive dissonance is. hatrack Saturday #14
Yup, Fuck 'em. The rest of us need to stay strong and push back. Joinfortmill Saturday #32
Absolutely. It was never really about the 2nd Amendment. peppertree Saturday #15
& LIBRULL/PROGRESSIVE/ALTERNATIVE "Dilutes" Whiteness ForeGoneLegsBirne Saturday #33
I think it is purposeful..... usedtobedemgurl Saturday #18
The cognitive dissonance is infinitely deep angrychair Saturday #19
The Five Reasons Wars Happen littlemissmartypants Saturday #20
Two words: Kyle Rittenhouse Wednesdays Saturday #21
Who knows, maybe he joined ICE. Dulcinea Saturday #28
He'll never go hungry though, that's for sure. Wednesdays Saturday #30
It's not cognitive dissonance. LuvLoogie Saturday #22
Great point creeksneakers2 Saturday #24
Excellent point. We shall see. TickTock. Joinfortmill Saturday #26
This is great, but as I'm reading this I'm also thinking.... Native Saturday #27
The cognitive dissonance is that the ICE-goons get to have it both ways ... always FakeNoose Saturday #29
gun humpers have been warning about tyranny as long as I can remember Skittles Saturday #31
His base thinks the phone vids are AI lies. Brenda Saturday #34
Major setback for 2A sanity, possibly fatal gulliver Saturday #36
They don't believe the rules apply to them JustAnotherGen Saturday #38
This is an excellent point herding cats Saturday #39
Unlimited? But won't it be handy to have such a precedent.. lostnfound Saturday #41
Well now they are murdering white people - will magats give a rats ass? tazcat Saturday #42
I don't think they will care until it is one of them Tree Lady Yesterday #45
They will wrap the propaganda and pain into a tangled web, that is nonsensical. yellow dahlia Saturday #43
Trump's base loves this iemanja Saturday #44
Yet it seems it was ok for Kyle Rittenhouse. Nt Figarosmom Yesterday #46
ICE uses a two-prong test in determining who should be summarily executed. John1956PA Yesterday #47
I actually think this incident has the potential to cause some fracturing among the 2A MAGA base and the... Ol Janx Spirit Yesterday #48
This could easily happen to an off duty or retired cop in addition to civilians Historic NY Yesterday #49
I Don't Think That The Reason This Man Was Killed DallasNE 23 hrs ago #50
I Hope the Base Knows what went on... Cha 23 hrs ago #51
Their "principles" have been shown to be a sham. They believe in us vs them and that's it unblock 23 hrs ago #52
Dear 2A Republican voters: this Trumpy government is the tyranny you've been warning us about. Beartracks 22 hrs ago #53
I think Stephen Miller wants some killings so the people riot, and Trump can say he's saving the country Doodley 22 hrs ago #54
Not sure it will snap RetiredParatrooper 19 hrs ago #55
Everyone who supports the Magatocracy has already completely snapped. ananda 17 hrs ago #57
It'll only become a problem if one of the magas gets shot and killed Javaman 17 hrs ago #58
Agreed seta1950 13 hrs ago #59
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