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PatSeg

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23. Actually Bush opposed the formation of DHS at first
Mon Jan 26, 2026, 10:19 AM
Jan 26

Eventually he caved to pressure from members of congress. For five minutes he was almost on the right side of history.

Surprisingly, it was Joe Lieberman who initially 'proposed it, White House conservatives reportedly balked because it would mean a vast new federal bureaucracy. But President Bush reportedly decided it was “politically expedient” to sign the bill. So Congress and the White House essentially wrote a blank check –one of many that spawned a post-9/11 national security state that threatened to put the country on a permanent war-time footing — and wrongly treated the “homeland” as if it was under continuous, existential threat.'

https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/20-years-later-its-time-to-overhaul-the-department-of-homeland-security

I'd remembered that Bush opposed DHS at first, but I didn't remember that Lieberman had proposed it. It didn't take long before republicans got onboard and politicized 9/11 to their own benefit. I remember all the military grade armored vehicles and weapons sent to police departments all over the country. It was both bizarre and frightening; now we can see all our worst fears come true.

There's more at the link that was very interesting.

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Don't forget Mike Pence too. Emile Jan 26 #1
Yep and the potato guy too malaise Jan 26 #2
I think you mean the "potatoe" guy.... Ol Janx Spirit Jan 26 #25
Haha Joinfortmill Jan 26 #26
That one 😀 malaise Jan 26 #28
And Mitt. JHB Jan 26 #8
W is somewhere in a bathtub painting a picture of his feet Buckeyeblue Jan 26 #3
A bathtub full of gin no doubt Blues Heron Jan 26 #6
Lol 😂 Emile Jan 26 #9
Haha Joinfortmill Jan 26 #27
He probably has alcoholism related dementia by now. littlemissmartypants Jan 26 #40
That describes his entire time as president Buckeyeblue Jan 26 #51
Who from the Bush family do you care to hear from? Renew Deal Jan 26 #4
Barbara Bush, Dubya's daughter. Certainly not Jeb. Ritabert Jan 26 #22
Yes, silence is complicity. Blues Heron Jan 26 #5
My only point malaise Jan 26 #31
They simply don't care Bettie Jan 26 #7
"...it isn't affecting their beloved cash flow..." OldBaldy1701E Jan 26 #16
We've curtailed our spending Bettie Jan 26 #33
I apologize, as I was not referring to that aspect of the situation. OldBaldy1701E Jan 26 #53
I get all of that Bettie Jan 26 #57
Perhaps because DHS was Shrub's brilliant idea in the first place. MLWR Jan 26 #10
When Democrats are back in power, DHS needs to be reorganized to decrease its ability to create a rogue police force. Lonestarblue Jan 26 #12
DHS needs to be dismantled completely. llmart Jan 26 #15
It needs to be broken up and reorganized back to the pre-Bush arrangements. JHB Jan 26 #64
That was EXACTLY my thought this morning. llmart Jan 26 #14
Dhs certainly has not kept regular Americans safe Clouds Passing Jan 26 #46
Actually Bush opposed the formation of DHS at first PatSeg Jan 26 #23
Lieberman, a strange dude. Joinfortmill Jan 26 #30
He certainly was PatSeg Jan 26 #39
He turned out to be a DINO MustLoveBeagles Jan 26 #62
Oh yes, he certainly could have PatSeg Jan 26 #66
and the unconstitutional USA Patriot Act UpInArms Jan 26 #32
That seems like even more of a reason for him to speak out against this "use" of DHS... Ol Janx Spirit Jan 26 #36
He's a brain damaged old man. See: littlemissmartypants Jan 26 #41
He is a republican thug. We don't care what he thinks. mysteryowl Jan 26 #11
I'd forgotten about the Bush family. BluesRunTheGame Jan 26 #13
Hahaha! littlemissmartypants Jan 26 #43
Probably thinking, "we coulda got away with way more" rickford66 Jan 26 #17
Fuck Republicans angrychair Jan 26 #18
Good question. Losing our freedoms is not a partisan livetohike Jan 26 #19
Poppy tried in the 30's cayugafalls Jan 26 #20
Word is no Johonny Jan 26 #21
Dubya is keeping his head down so nobody remembers his two decades-long wars Ritabert Jan 26 #24
They don't give a shit. choie Jan 26 #29
they don't care - their corruption of texas, florida politics and stealing samsingh Jan 26 #34
Yeah, I wanna hear what the war criminal thinks Martin Eden Jan 26 #35
It's easier to be a dictator. Trump is finishing up Bush Sr. Legacy. Blue Full Moon Jan 26 #37
Their foreign policy spoke volumes malaise Jan 26 #38
GHW Bush quit the NRA over "jack-booted thugs" comment. Norrrm Jan 26 #42
They are keeping there powder dry bagimin Jan 26 #44
This is their wet dream. They planned it long ago. Clouds Passing Jan 26 #45
Maybe the Bushes realize they're so unpopular, it won't help to speak up mainer Jan 26 #47
You are absolutely right MacKasey Jan 26 #48
former presidents of both parties maliaSmith Jan 26 #49
They brought it about. Kid Berwyn Jan 26 #50
Abroad first and now malaise Jan 26 #54
Precisely. Kid Berwyn Jan 26 #60
Who cares? Their silence has made them irrelevant. hatrack Jan 26 #52
George the second, he has always had his head in the sand.... FarPoint Jan 26 #55
It's probably the Kompromat..... Escape Jan 26 #56
The bush family is irrelevant. drray23 Jan 26 #58
What about former President Joe Biden nothing from him either Beringia Jan 26 #59
As Bush said a couple of years ago, "I retired from politics" Polybius Jan 26 #61
They simply don't care Bettie Jan 26 #63
George w Cherrycheeks Jan 26 #65
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