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dpibel

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9. facts/accuracy/science?

Tue Jan 27, 2026, 08:54 PM

Jan 27

"If you want my opinion, she probably got this off some shady internet CT site."

Sure, it's your opinion.

But what facts do you have to back it up?

And what is your basis for this: "If you think this some kind of "coming clean", or "exposure of the guilty" you, it is almost certainly not."

Rules for me but not for thee?

And, just to be clear, you're suggesting that Virginia Giuffre was subject to prosecution, but for the NPA? That's a new one on me.

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Epstein accomplice drops courtroom bombshell: 25+ secret payoffs with no criminal charges [View all] turbinetree Jan 27 OP

Are we to assume she is threatening to name names? Raven123 Jan 27 #1

She 3auld6phart Jan 27 #11

I bet you she'll "suicide" herself.... SergeStorms Jan 28 #30

She doesn't know the names. She claims she just learned about the settlements from a podcast. onenote Jan 28 #39

Bullshit, she knows EVERYTHING Bev54 Jan 28 #46

Did you read her habeas petition? Of course you didn't. onenote Jan 28 #47

Of course I didn't, why would I read her lies. Bev54 Jan 28 #48

Thank you. So her statement is hearsay and therefore nonsense Raven123 Jan 28 #54

She knows all the names, plus she lies about everything KS Toronado Jan 28 #56

Then why are we learning about this from her? MadameButterfly Jan 28 #58

According to her filing: The "Interesting Lawyers Podcast" onenote Jan 28 #60

Good grief MadameButterfly Jan 28 #65

This is it, guys! She going to name names FakeNoose Jan 27 #2

Or get epsteined SheltieLover Jan 27 #3

Riiiiiiiiight! AKwannabe Jan 27 #6

I would bet her lawyer (or someone else} has the information ToxMarz Jan 27 #8

Not if her lawyers had traffic accidents first LiberalArkie Jan 27 #10

There's likely a "dead man's switch" Wednesdays Jan 27 #23

Epstein was smart in tech. Epstein would have had a dead mans file somewhere. With the people he dealt with. LiberalArkie Jan 28 #42

Just like Karen Silkwood, huh? RVN VET71 Jan 28 #36

Her lawyer could be getting paid by those very same people. BComplex Jan 28 #43

She's angling for clemancy dflprincess Jan 27 #18

My first thought... IthinkThereforeIAM Jan 27 #24

Yep. Shes DARING trump to keep her locked up. Volaris Jan 27 #28

I disagree blueknight73 Jan 27 #22

And she knows about these "settlements" (not necessarily equivalent to "payouts", rawstory headline writers) how? AZJonnie Jan 27 #4

facts/accuracy/science? dpibel Jan 27 #9

She said herself that she feared prosecution and has admitted taking money for bringing her friends into the ring AZJonnie Jan 27 #14

This is not that hard dpibel Jan 27 #15

This is not "whatever speculation I see fit" AZJonnie Jan 27 #27

In the first place, her lawyer quit and she wrote and filed the petition herself. Gaugamela Jan 27 #13

The reason I mentioned Guiffre is in post 14 above, hopefully that clears it up. AZJonnie Jan 27 #16

I thought they got the birthday book from the Epstein estate, not Ghislaine Maxwell. BComplex Jan 28 #45

The Wall Street Journal reported on the book first, specifically mentioning Trump's Gaugamela Jan 28 #49

The "Epstein Estate" is Jeffrey's only brother Mark Epstein FakeNoose Jan 28 #61

The Epstein Estate is managed by two Epstein associates, his lawyer and his accountant. Gaugamela Jan 28 #62

Good info. Thanks! FakeNoose Jan 28 #66

And as soon as she gets out she will skip the country... IthinkThereforeIAM Jan 27 #26

Maybe! I have to admit I've long been intrigued by the possibility of Epstein and Maxwell being intel agents AZJonnie Jan 27 #29

That is exactly the niche that Robert Maxwell developed... IthinkThereforeIAM Jan 28 #55

these people were in contact with each other rampartd Jan 28 #32

surprised poozwah Jan 28 #38

trump likes her. rampartd Jan 28 #44

Theoretically, maybe? AZJonnie Jan 28 #53

Don't ever discount Ghislaine FakeNoose Jan 28 #69

WHEN ARE WE EVER GONNA FIND OUT!!!!!!! a kennedy Jan 27 #5

Kick kick kick Easterncedar Jan 27 #7

Still, talk is cheap. Could be true or not. rubbersole Jan 27 #12

My big question is how newsworthy this is across the nation. ananda Jan 27 #17

If true, she's playing a very dangerous game. If true, why hasn't she done this before now? Deuxcents Jan 27 #19

She's either getting impatient or suicidal. nt Shipwack Jan 27 #20

Likely she DOES read or watch the news, sees her pardon disappearing as Trump mob crashes & burns Attilatheblond Jan 28 #40

I hadn't thought of that angle.... Escape Jan 28 #68

Pam Bondi! Let's see the records. Kid Berwyn Jan 27 #21

Includ her own banking transactions Attilatheblond Jan 28 #41

I'll take "Who's next to be Epsteined? for $1000" Alex... Wounded Bear Jan 27 #25

she's turning up the heat to get a pardon. nt Javaman Jan 28 #31

I'd bet anything that he is on the list randr Jan 28 #33

"Who are these men, and why are they still being protected?" OldBaldy1701E Jan 28 #34

Hate this "Epstein accomplice" shit. Can't you just say "Ghislaine Maxwell?" Grins Jan 28 #35

Hyped story -- not new information. She doesn't know who these alleged settlements were with. onenote Jan 28 #37

Just thinking here, so i have to ask you,What is the penalty if the person,(persons) that signed these supposed bluestarone Jan 28 #52

I think these are (alleged) non prosecution agreements... reACTIONary Jan 28 #64

The victims have it withn their ability to name names. Sneederbunk Jan 28 #50

But we need them alive MadameButterfly Jan 28 #59

Pam Bondi inaction figure Coldwater Jan 28 #51

The only link I could find on this story is the TheDailyBeast.com link buried in the RawStory.com link ... aggiesal Jan 28 #57

RELEASE. THE. GOD. DAMNED. FILES. Blue Owl Jan 28 #63

Ari discussion coming up malaise Jan 28 #67