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AZJonnie

(3,382 posts)
23. Thanks! Interesting article!
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 01:44 PM
Saturday

I always like reading Michael Mann, who is quoted often in the article.

This is good summation thereof:

To Mann, this is a common tactic from the wealthy, one he describes as “stopping short of denying the basic science of climate change, but downplaying the impacts, dismissing the real solutions (i.e., clean energy), and ultimately acting as enablers of the fossil fuel status quo.”


Epstein does not seem to be necessarily a "climate change denier" so much as a "it's probably real, but maybe it will have unforeseen benefits for the planet and/or humanity, long term" type. I'm not entirely sure which is "worse", though outright deniers (and especially the people who cry "hoax!" ) generally annoy me more just because it's such an incredibly STUPID thesis.

The other sort, the Epstein types, however are probably more dangerous, especially when they have the dough to influence what steps are actually taken.

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Superior DNA? Was he delusional? Ritabert Saturday #1
They all seem to be malignant narcissists. Really sick, sick people. travelingthrulife Saturday #3
What's ironic is that they all are a very unprepossessing group. Ritabert Saturday #26
Dunning-Kruger Be Leave On Saturday #27
Correct. Ritabert Saturday #30
Indeed yellow dahlia Saturday #36
Another depraved megolomaniac Alice Kramden Saturday #2
What did he know of humanity? pandr32 Saturday #21
Clean link so that the Guardian's servers won't see that everyone who clicks the link came from Facebook AZJonnie Saturday #4
Thanks for the direct link. ShazzieB Saturday #29
they need to be co defendents in a conspiracy for crimes against humanity trial at the hague. rampartd Saturday #33
Thank you for posting, I had no idea RandomNumbers Saturday #5
Where do we sign up for the French Revolution II? chicoescuela Saturday #6
For ages... buzzycrumbhunger Saturday #8
Yet Another Effort Be Leave On Saturday #28
May I humbly inquire as to where this part of your OP came from? AZJonnie Saturday #7
Straight from the Guardian. buzzycrumbhunger Saturday #9
Not from the link in your post (but found elsewhere) RandomNumbers Saturday #13
Thanks! Interesting article! AZJonnie Saturday #23
No, neither of those two paragraphs are in the 2019 article from the Guardian AZJonnie Saturday #14
Not in the article Cirsium Saturday #10
And he claimed Trump was the most evil person he had ever met. twodogsbarking Saturday #11
Not accurate Cirsium Saturday #12
I'm certain Peter Thiel and the rest of the Tech Bro goons were . . . peggysue2 Saturday #15
No wonder Elon and his Tech Bro ilk liked Epstein misanthrope Saturday #16
A basis of comparison ninjanurse Saturday #17
Sounds like he may have been a big influence on Trump until he decided Trump was a flake. Martin68 Saturday #18
I found this paragraph . . . intriguing . . . hatrack Saturday #19
"We need much more than the French Revolution part deux... 😡" KPN Saturday #20
I may be old Mme. Defarge Saturday #32
And you can use your knitting needles Wednesdays Saturday #39
My two cents angrychair Saturday #22
They knew before his arrest. People talk. paleotn Saturday #25
No. Just no. ShazzieB Yesterday #40
Your reply angrychair 11 hrs ago #41
I understand completely. ShazzieB 6 hrs ago #42
It's always the real goobers who think their DNA is superior.... paleotn Saturday #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Mme. Defarge Saturday #31
eugenics Mr.Bee Saturday #34
How is it always these defective, physically and mentally repellant pond scum Maru Kitteh Saturday #35
Bookmarking, because I have used up all my WTF's for the day. yellow dahlia Saturday #37
The article can be described in one word: eugenics Wednesdays Saturday #38
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