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RomneyLies

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52. You make a valid point
Mon Dec 31, 2012, 09:03 PM
Dec 2012

The $250K is AGI, not Gross Income.

But there's also two things at work here. There's perception and political will.

It's a lot easier to make it sound reasonable at the $250K mark, and that is right around the place where the middle class ends in Gross Income, depending on location.

Then there's the political will to increase taxes, which is nearly non-existent on the other side of the aisle due to the fact that they've worked their base into a froth and have no room for maneuvering whatsoever.

So you'd never increase the rates where they probably should be, starting back around $100K for the 39.6% bracket and further brackets above that, due to a lack of political will from the party that controls the House.

When you add in the fact that the GOP controls the House under the Hastert Rule whereby no legislation that will not get a majority of the Republican caucus can be brought to the floor for a vote, and you have a recipe for disaster.

I doubt there will be any deal before the Speaker of the House is elected for the 113th Congress, and even after that, it's going to be tough.

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Hmm. I wouldn't count on it flamingdem Dec 2012 #1
Too late, the House has adjorned. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #3
Then if this is good why did the Dems try so hard... flamingdem Dec 2012 #4
They cannot be seen as the reason why we "went over the cliff" RomneyLies Dec 2012 #6
From what the pundits were saying Obama didn't want this.. flamingdem Dec 2012 #9
There 3 million reasons amd all of them have families who won't get UEB this week is why. freshwest Dec 2012 #33
First order of business for the new Congress should be to restore UI. Up or down. Let the GOP go leveymg Dec 2012 #53
+1,000. Thanks. Yes, there were reasons to try. freshwest Dec 2012 #69
I will bet the cutoff is much higher than the doc03 Dec 2012 #56
It all depends. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #58
Once the fiscal cliff bs is over, what bargaining power does the doc03 Dec 2012 #64
Not much unless tied to sequestration n/t RomneyLies Dec 2012 #65
The Republicans don't give a damn they will do the same thing doc03 Dec 2012 #66
celebration commences! quinnox Dec 2012 #2
Bring it on!!! People trust Obama. Polls say so Pretzel_Warrior Dec 2012 #5
Looks like Americans are catching on.. except for the 60 million assholes who voted Puke last month freshwest Dec 2012 #34
Bush gave it 10 years so that it would land smack on the next president Hekate Dec 2012 #7
Before Jr. I thought Reagan was the worst President ever. Liberalynn Dec 2012 #48
Budget Act and the Byrd Rule Make7 Dec 2012 #63
More simply ToxMarz Dec 2012 #70
. baldguy Dec 2012 #8
Excellent choice for a theme. FarPoint Dec 2012 #13
How do repubs shoot themselved in the face.... pangaia Dec 2012 #10
See, you would expect them to hang themselves with that rope RomneyLies Dec 2012 #16
OH ! never thought of that ! pangaia Dec 2012 #21
They are stupid. Their base is stupid. nt bluestate10 Dec 2012 #17
Off topic.... baldguy Dec 2012 #24
If you have a BJ's Wholesale Club store nearby eilen Jan 2013 #83
You don't think they suggest guns everywhere and would let the chance pass? freshwest Dec 2012 #35
I already had too much eggnog at 7:05.. pangaia Dec 2012 #67
Well, happy new year to ya! freshwest Dec 2012 #68
Back at you, too. pangaia Jan 2013 #85
We are going OVER the cliff... lib2DaBone Dec 2012 #11
Let them die, please! ananda Dec 2012 #12
I like the idea of going over the fiscal cliff, it is going to cost me and others money, but a bluestate10 Dec 2012 #14
You didn't watch the President's press conference today, did you. nt Romulox Dec 2012 #15
Yes, I did. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #18
Why do you want to bring so many of them back? hfojvt Dec 2012 #19
Ever try to live in a big city? RomneyLies Dec 2012 #20
please tell me you are either kidding or a republican Skittles Dec 2012 #22
I'm being honest. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #23
I found it vulgar when you said you admired Reagan FSogol Dec 2012 #26
I find it vulgar that you treat the political arena like some kind of war. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #28
Reagan was scum and so are his defenders. FSogol Dec 2012 #38
THANK YOU Skittles Dec 2012 #42
Idi Amin never offered service to the United States RomneyLies Dec 2012 #43
You constantly defend Reagan on "Democratic Underground," yet wonder why people FSogol Dec 2012 #45
Treating your political opponents as evil incarnate never solved anything RomneyLies Dec 2012 #46
Another fail. You are the one using the term "evil." I used "scum." FSogol Dec 2012 #51
Now you have completely lost me RomneyLies Dec 2012 #54
yeah, well... Sid isn't much better fascisthunter Dec 2012 #62
I find you telling us that 250,000 is simply not enough for some people insulting. trumad Dec 2012 #27
I moved to the Suburbs because I do not make that kind of money RomneyLies Dec 2012 #30
Grow up and learn how the world works Jim Warren Dec 2012 #47
Actually, you're the one who should probably grow up and learn how the world works. n/t RomneyLies Dec 2012 #49
Wow... learn how politics works? trumad Dec 2012 #55
Given your posts, you have been here to do nothing but rant RomneyLies Dec 2012 #57
Yeah I'm a realist to trumad Jan 2013 #75
And one other point RomneyLies Dec 2012 #60
Keep making shit up as you go trumad Jan 2013 #76
Keep blinders to reality on. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #81
Reality to what? trumad Jan 2013 #82
One other point RomneyLies Dec 2012 #36
I'm being honest Jim Warren Dec 2012 #29
I'm being honest RomneyLies Dec 2012 #31
Less than 3% of the population claim more than $250,000 in income Lex Dec 2012 #32
And the portion of the population that makes that as earned income RomneyLies Dec 2012 #39
I have almost always lived in the city!! Skittles Dec 2012 #37
Yes, vulgar. n/t RomneyLies Dec 2012 #40
LOL Skittles Dec 2012 #41
HA RomneyLies Dec 2012 #44
Here's a solution: vi5 Jan 2013 #79
except the top rate does not kick in at $250,000 hfojvt Dec 2012 #50
You make a valid point RomneyLies Dec 2012 #52
Are you saying the top 3%ers living in Chicargo are the neuvo-working poor? Cobalt Violet Jan 2013 #73
Ding dong the witch is dead. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2012 #25
Is that midnight EST? ellie Dec 2012 #59
Yes RomneyLies Dec 2012 #61
We all know Bush is the Worst Ever...but what is his legacy to conservatives now? GatorOrange Dec 2012 #71
...and there was much rejoicing... bobclark86 Dec 2012 #72
'Bout time we threw the first wife's junk out......nt fadedrose Jan 2013 #74
they're not. the rich get to keep all the cuts everyone else does; they also get to keep the HiPointDem Jan 2013 #77
Exactly. Obama's bold move was to make 98% of the Bush tax cuts PERMANENT BlueStreak Jan 2013 #80
Does anyone really think.... vi5 Jan 2013 #78
by "dead forever" Enrique Jan 2013 #84
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