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73. Pentagon Threatened the Pope After He Criticized Trump
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 08:07 PM
Wednesday

It was so bad that Pope Leo changed his plans to travel to the U.S.

This thin-skinned mafia administration is insane.
newrepublic.com/post/208820/...

Mrs. Betty Bowers (@mrsbettybowers.bsky.social) 2026-04-08T22:50:43.514Z

https://newrepublic.com/post/208820/pentagon-threatened-pope-criticized-donald-trump

Relations between the U.S. and the Catholic Church have not been the same since January, when senior U.S. defense officials shared an abrasive message with a Vatican official.

Days after Pope Leo XIV delivered his State of the World speech, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Elbridge Colby summoned Cardinal Christophe Pierre, the Vatican’s U.S. representative, to a closed-door Pentagon meeting for a bitter lecture.

“The United States,” Colby said, according to a blistering new report by The Free Press, “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.”

One U.S. official present at the meeting brought up the Avignon papacy, a period in the 14th century in which the French monarchy bent the Catholic Church into submission, ordering an attack on Pope Boniface VIII that led to his downfall and subsequent death and forcing the papacy to relocate from Rome to Avignon, a region inside France......

The Vatican was so alarmed by the Pentagon’s warning that Pope Leo cancelled his plans to visit the U.S. later in the year, reported Hale, who noted that “many in the Vatican saw the Pentagon’s reference to an Avignon papacy as a threat to use military force against the Holy See.”

Tensions had not been mended by February, when the Holy See rejected the White House’s invitation to host Pope Leo—the religious order’s first U.S.-born pontiff—for America’s 250th anniversary in July. Instead, the Catholic leader has arranged to visit a very different locale on July 4: Lampedusa, a tiny island between Tunisia and Sicily where North African immigrants wash ashore by the thousands

Hegseth is a religious nut case who believes that G-d is supporting trump's war and military actions. I note that Hegseth excluded Catholics from Good Friday religious events. See https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221145488 If nothing else, Hegseth's actions/statements and the attack on the Pope violate the basic fundamental precepts of the separation of church and state.

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WTF. mercuryblues Wednesday #1
Well there goes Italy malaise Wednesday #6
And all the Catholics of the world BonnieJW Wednesday #45
the anti catholicism of these maga know nothings is in their dna. rampartd Wednesday #106
And much of Latin America. Wednesdays Wednesday #102
Much of Western Europe... róisín_dubh Yesterday #110
To the right wing Evangelicals, the pope is the devil incarnate and Catholicism is an abomination. flashman13 Wednesday #55
Who says we'd even want to go to such an - um - "event"? calimary Wednesday #70
You must have grown up in a different era than I did. Ms. Toad Wednesday #76
I dated a Jewish girl in high school and went to synagogue with her family a couple of times. flashman13 Wednesday #85
The rest of us were all friendly and had a good time at each other's churches. Ms. Toad Wednesday #92
I can vouch for that. Wednesdays Wednesday #96
Yep. Catholic here. Oh boy did we obey. calimary Yesterday #112
I have a different memory of those formative years FakeNoose 16 hrs ago #129
Maybe it was regional, Ms. Toad 16 hrs ago #130
I guess the point is that it was made clear they wren't invited. I'm no expert, but that doesn't sound very christian. flashman13 Wednesday #84
They're in league with the antiChrist B.See Wednesday #91
Another regime change scheme? Marcuse Wednesday #95
Trump would do as Henry VIII did if he thought he could get away with it. hunter 18 hrs ago #119
That wouldn't have happened if Henry had been allowed to divorce his first wife FakeNoose 16 hrs ago #133
So is Trump going to bomb the Vatican? SunSeeker Wednesday #2
It's definitely an implied threat. ananda Wednesday #35
He has two brothers in Florida and Illinois but no children. Marcuse 12 hrs ago #140
And, does he want to move the seat of the papacy to the White House? ananda Wednesday #38
Wonder what Catholic convert JD Vance thinks of all that... SunSeeker Wednesday #93
don't give him any ideas plz vapor2 Wednesday #59
I hope the fucking Catholics that voted for the tsf BlueKota Wednesday #3
Those Catholics hate their Pope. Other Catholics love their Pope. mucifer Wednesday #5
But do they love Whiskey Pete going all "30 Years War" at the Pentagon? paleotn Wednesday #14
Many of them like Whiskey Pete BlueKota Wednesday #37
Exactly! ybbor Wednesday #25
I really admire this Pope. BlueKota Wednesday #32
Not raised Catholic, but I'm definitely impressed with Leo. ShazzieB Wednesday #49
I was raised Catholic too. Dulcinea Wednesday #77
I agree. These two most recent Popes to me represent BlueKota Wednesday #82
I agree. As a recovering ex Catholic I do like.. yourout Wednesday #103
That is good that your wife's church is inclusive. BlueKota 13 hrs ago #136
Popes Leo and Francis are truly "modern" men of this century FakeNoose 16 hrs ago #131
Trumpist Conservative Catholics will never hear about this incident. maxsolomon Wednesday #8
Not a chance. I'd have probably never heard of it without DU underpants Wednesday #33
Yah, my whole damn family voted for the orange piece of shit BECAUSE OF HIS ABORTION STANCE!!!!!! a kennedy Wednesday #27
yeppers - got some friends like that rurallib Wednesday #29
It's so ironic how many fell for his anti-abortion act. ShazzieB Wednesday #51
I wonder how many he paid for over the years. n/t SheilaAnn Wednesday #63
Right? ShazzieB Wednesday #67
They don't even care if he believes JBTaurus83 Wednesday #105
Do they know how many abortions OhioBack2Blue Wednesday #66
Indeed, the Bible says nothing about abortion, except for a how-to. Wednesdays Wednesday #98
I gotcha beat, I think... slightlv Wednesday #71
I'm quite sure Trump doesn't really give 2 hoots about abortion... 3catwoman3 Wednesday #90
+1 area51 Wednesday #109
He actually had Erik aborted RVN VET71 19 hrs ago #117
TSF and crew had better get ready for some smiting. Sneederbunk Wednesday #4
Guess they really don't like Leo's public statements wnylib Wednesday #7
This was January so they must really be pissed with his comments malaise Wednesday #9
Thats probably why hes been making them, Chicago Pope cares more about the Cubs than he does their threats lol. Volaris Wednesday #52
Agree malaise Wednesday #56
I can't help but being afraid for his safety MustLoveBeagles Wednesday #36
Dear Goddess, these people are beyond deranged and dangerous. niyad Wednesday #10
I just caught the tail end of her segment before the break..what's going on? I need to read up on the Avignon Papacy Deuxcents Wednesday #11
need to read up on the Avignon Papacy malaise Wednesday #15
Avignon Papacy, in a nutshell: Wednesdays Wednesday #99
Omg what a manipulative bunch of degenerates. Passages Wednesday #12
Nobody expects 3825-87867 Wednesday #13
There's an almost full bingo card of pissed off religious groups that tsf is about to complete. rubbersole Wednesday #16
Colby is NOT . . . AverageOldGuy Wednesday #17
He is a nepo baby, a grandson of one-time CIA head William Colby. n/t valleyrogue Wednesday #108
Nepo Borgia baby yorkster 20 hrs ago #114
If only there were some super secret Vatican police force PuraVidaDreamin Wednesday #18
The church has had or does have secret people who can take care of a situation that you're alluding to. Trueblue1968 Wednesday #86
The Avignon Papacy AverageOldGuy Wednesday #19
Thanks..got to reading this history, too. I'm wondering just why the pentagon is bringing this up now Deuxcents Wednesday #21
Thank you AverageOldGuy malaise Wednesday #22
Thanks MustLoveBeagles Wednesday #41
And now: Recently-converted Catholic JD Vance says he will "look into the report" AverageOldGuy Wednesday #20
Well, this just answered my question..thanks Deuxcents Wednesday #23
He has a pre-campaign book out. It has a church on the cover. underpants Wednesday #47
A church he had never even been in, much less attended. niyad Wednesday #62
A church that's not even Roman Catholic. nt Wednesdays Wednesday #101
He looks like a young Jonathan Winters. llmart Wednesday #74
Reminds me of Dom DeLuise sop 14 hrs ago #135
Smug, smackable face dedl67 11 hrs ago #142
How long until VD Jance renounces Catholicism & goes full fundie? Dulcinea Wednesday #83
Makes sense to me... littlemissmartypants Wednesday #24
Going to war with the Pope. Irish_Dem Wednesday #26
Steve Bannon's wet dream no_hypocrisy Wednesday #28
They had a "fourteenth-century weapon" handy? underpants Wednesday #30
Thanks for the info MustLoveBeagles Wednesday #43
I think it's long past due to excommunicate many of these right-wing fascist Catholics in America. Crowman2009 Wednesday #31
Like that will scare him. Bob doesn't strike me as the type to suffer fools. He also strikes me as the type Scrivener7 Wednesday #34
The forces of darkness have thrown down the gauntlet. patphil Wednesday #39
Jeezus. Impeach him! Joinfortmill Wednesday #40
Well, that's some crazy shit right there. MerryBlooms Wednesday #42
Say what? Cirsium Wednesday #44
Welp, for those who thought this administration left the rails and went full wackaloon in the last few weeks, Emrys Wednesday #46
Yup. God help us all!! blue-wave Wednesday #50
I mean, would you look at that upholstery: Emrys Wednesday #58
Jay Dee would blue-wave Wednesday #72
How many American Cardinals blue-wave Wednesday #48
I'm confident there will be not a word of this on EWTN DBoon Wednesday #53
The Avignon Papacy could be second pope Buzz cook Wednesday #54
Well, it's high time the Antipope put in an appearance Emrys Wednesday #65
Kick! red dog 1 Wednesday #57
Didn't the Pope snub Vance on his last visit? vapor2 Wednesday #60
Yes malaise Wednesday #64
So now Trump is going to bomb the Vatican? DFW Wednesday #61
Another link malaise Wednesday #79
To match the elbow-bending tendencies of Pete Hegseth, Mblaze Wednesday #68
They are all drunk on power. Figarosmom Wednesday #69
Pentagon Threatened the Pope After He Criticized Trump LetMyPeopleVote Wednesday #73
Good link malaise Wednesday #75
Remember when Trump dressed up as the Pope? delisen Wednesday #78
THIS malaise Wednesday #80
Trump did not "dress up as the Pope" Wiz Imp 10 hrs ago #144
Well, I thought they were all devout Christians.....nope it's all cosplay. spanone Wednesday #81
The best news is that the pope malaise Wednesday #87
Six of the current Nine Supreme Court Justices are Catholic. mackdaddy Wednesday #88
How many of those six are Opus Dei? Wednesdays Wednesday #104
Indeed. calimary 12 hrs ago #141
Omg BlueWaveNeverEnd Wednesday #89
NAZI diplomacy, but not so classy. Kid Berwyn Wednesday #94
I can't believe this. The Trump Administration doesn't know that much history. n/t malthaussen Wednesday #97
I think trump just wants KT2000 Wednesday #100
This is outrageously insane even for the Trump administration. valleyrogue Wednesday #107
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #111
I believe that Mierda47 has secured a seat in hell. n/t aggiesal Yesterday #113
I want earthly punishment malaise 19 hrs ago #115
I want both. n/t aggiesal 17 hrs ago #123
LOL malaise 17 hrs ago #124
an under secretary "summons" an ambassador? and not at the state dept?/ rampartd 19 hrs ago #116
All our worst nightmares about the influence of violent video malaise 19 hrs ago #118
I didn't think anyone in Trumps administration was even that smart. BradBo 18 hrs ago #120
These people are fucking crazy. This is Steven Miller the whole way. BradBo 18 hrs ago #121
Or Bannon malaise 18 hrs ago #122
Holy crap! PatSeg 17 hrs ago #125
Yep malaise 17 hrs ago #126
This is the kind of evil and madness PatSeg 11 hrs ago #143
How many divisions does the Pope have?-Josef Stalin CanonRay 16 hrs ago #127
You are correct malaise 16 hrs ago #132
Trumps reply.. Playingmantis 16 hrs ago #128
Threatening the Pope maliaSmith 15 hrs ago #134
And those same morons that call themselves Catholic and voted for the Orange Potato and GOP congress mdbl 13 hrs ago #137
Look at who Kegbreath's pastor is. This pretty much explains it all. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 13 hrs ago #138
It feels sorta like John Paul II v Moscow, 2.0 Torchlight 12 hrs ago #139
Out of control maniacs with unlimited power at their fingertips. Martin68 10 hrs ago #145
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