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QueerDuck

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35. That's a lot of creative projection, but I'll stick to the actual subject: David Hogg.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 05:30 PM
22 hrs ago

Any attempt to generalize my specific critique of one individual's strategic failings... and trying to falsely insinuate that I'm actually making a broad indictment of an entire wing of the party is a reach.

In reality, my comment was about a lack of pragmatism, not a Rorschach test for anyone's feelings about progressivism. The track record in question is clear. Sorry, I have no interest in shadowboxing with "talking points" I never actually used.

When I'm critiquing a specific person’s public behavior and strategy... others may think it's advantageous to defend him by trying to turn-the-tables and start critiquing (attacking) a fictional version of ME that's been invented simply to make a point. In my opinion, such things indicate a position of weakness.

If anyone wants to defend or justify Hogg's impulsiveness as a political asset, they are free to do so. But I won't waste time defending a straw man argument I never made.

My issue is not with "progressives" ... instead, it's with poor strategy and counterproductive optics, regardless of who is behind them. I maintain that a standard-bearer should be someone who's strategic rather than impulsive... and who unites rather than divides. If that feels like a personal attack on an entire movement to anyone, well, that says more about their expectations than my politics.

I'm moving on, but feel free to have the last word on the imaginary argument.

Bye. Have a nice day!

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This is why Mr. Hogg isn't ready to be a steward of the national party. mr715 Yesterday #1
Ugh. NOPE. n/t CousinIT Yesterday #2
I'm not understanding the reaction. "Give her a small chance to have that conversation" Ilikepurple Yesterday #3
He's giving the benefit of a doubt to a Republican that he wouldn't give to a Democrat. RandySF Yesterday #4
Are you saying that he wouldn't have given Mary Peltola a chance to explain her positions, Ilikepurple Yesterday #24
I don't understand the hate for this young guy either. Democrats can be just as bad as Repukes. If you don't agree with Pisces Yesterday #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Yesterday #21
Ah, sweetie, you are back again! sheshe2 23 hrs ago #29
I'm still trying to figure out from her reply who is clutching whose pearls. Ilikepurple 22 hrs ago #39
She won't be here that long. sheshe2 21 hrs ago #43
I thought it might be my first encounter with someone whose posts and user ID gets routinely and quickly removed. Ilikepurple 20 hrs ago #54
If you've served any terms in MIRT, you really get to know her tells. sheshe2 20 hrs ago #56
I was on the jury for this post LetMyPeopleVote 2 hrs ago #68
The same woman (MTG) who bullied/threatened him? area51 Yesterday #5
If his immaturity gives him the ability to be authentic to himself then I say more of this!! He said he would give her Pisces Yesterday #6
Hogg was a survivor of the Parkland school mass murder shooting. He criticised Peltola for being a big pro gunner. Celerity Yesterday #8
. RandySF Yesterday #11
Do you have a link to Hogg celebrating Peltola's defeat? TIA Celerity Yesterday #14
. RandySF Yesterday #16
That is not a celebration. It is a critique. nt Celerity Yesterday #19
"Good riddance". Sounds like a type of celebration. It sounds Nixie 7 hrs ago #61
Yeah Arthur_Frain 23 hrs ago #25
You're right. This post is just a shameful pot-stirrer without the poster even clarifying or stating an opinion. adam_vermont 22 hrs ago #33
Was the Republican who defeated Peltoa any better on gun control? Jose Garcia 21 hrs ago #50
Oh good grief! It baffles me why anyone wants this jackass to be our party's standard-bearer. QueerDuck Yesterday #9
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Yesterday #13
I take your point, but his attacks on Democrats put him in that category, IMHO. Further... QueerDuck Yesterday #15
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Yesterday #18
He'll leave the Democratic Party soon enough, I'd bet on it. betsuni 3 hrs ago #65
That seems very likely. It's not as though we haven't seen it before... QueerDuck 2 hrs ago #66
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This message was self-deleted by its author QueerDuck 23 hrs ago #28
That's a lot of creative projection, but I'll stick to the actual subject: David Hogg. QueerDuck 22 hrs ago #35
I don't care about Hogg Cirsium 22 hrs ago #41
yes, like a "progressive" or someone who is "young" ! Heaven forbid they become passionate Democrats adam_vermont 22 hrs ago #36
You are correct Keepthesoulalive 23 hrs ago #31
In other words, he has qualities characteristic of young, inexperienced people. adam_vermont 22 hrs ago #34
It is interesting that a critique of political strategy is being reframed as an issue of "manners" or age. QueerDuck 22 hrs ago #42
Boom. Cha 21 hrs ago #48
The opposite Cirsium 21 hrs ago #49
Maybe you should take your own advice? nt Cha 21 hrs ago #47
Fucking what??? Initech Yesterday #10
Yepper...and if I remember right she wasn't in Congress yet. She just wanted Bengus81 Yesterday #22
That's impressive coalition building. He's willing to ally with MTG to try to save us from Trump. adam_vermont 22 hrs ago #37
Well, you know the old saying "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Initech 20 hrs ago #57
Give her a chance to do what? Fiendish Thingy Yesterday #12
He said a small chance, and yes, it was about her now being anti-Trump Celerity Yesterday #17
He's not the only one either... PunkinPi Yesterday #20
Gosh...wonder why we lose elections? Bengus81 Yesterday #23
The following is the actual quote when asked about MTG and Candace Owens's defections. Ilikepurple 21 hrs ago #52
OMG! Trueblue Texan 23 hrs ago #27
You need to learn a lot. adam_vermont 22 hrs ago #38
naw Skittles 21 hrs ago #51
If she represents a segment of her party moving away from Trump, it might be useful to know why. Ilikepurple 20 hrs ago #53
you know what? if they move away from Trump, good for them Skittles 20 hrs ago #55
Figure it out... Trueblue Texan 8 hrs ago #59
Experience, bud. Take your own medicine. nt Trueblue Texan 8 hrs ago #58
David Hogg has been dead to me for awhile. ananda 23 hrs ago #30
Post removed Post removed 22 hrs ago #32
She may be a NAZI, but Trump threatened to kill her and her kids. Kid Berwyn 22 hrs ago #40
Trump said horrible things about Pelosi alsoi JI7 21 hrs ago #45
"All roads seem to lead to Putin with the president." Kid Berwyn 3 hrs ago #62
TSF has threatened many people. Trueblue Texan 8 hrs ago #60
I don't either, but she has friends we should convert. Kid Berwyn 3 hrs ago #63
He grew up in a Republican home JI7 21 hrs ago #44
Trying to work with Republicans usually results in angry cries of CAVE! betsuni 2 hrs ago #67
TY.. Why was Hogg "celebrating Mary Peltola's loss?! Cha 21 hrs ago #46
The rule that Democrats should never get the benefit of the doubt because it's assumed they have bad motivations. betsuni 3 hrs ago #64
I'm not sure what "give her a chance" means... biocube 2 hrs ago #69
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