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wnylib

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23. So the CIA takes a 16 year old kid (not yet an adult)
Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:28 PM
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who already has mental health problems and dopes him with LSD, interrogates and humiliates him, but they share no responsibility in pushing him over the edge to become a killer, which was only a fantasy of his before that?

Without that cruel intervention in his life and development, might he have turned out differently? Might he have received counseling and medication to cope with his mental iillness? We'll never know.

I knew a genius in one of my college classes. He was a brilliant mathematician with no social skills at all. He had mental health issues and had dropped out of another college at that college's request (insistent request) because of behavior that alarmed faculty and students. He enrolled in the college that I attended after some therapy.

He was obsessed with one of our professors and told me that he had transported himself through a closed door to watch her. Alarmed by his fantasies, I told her about it. She took it calmly and became a social mentor for him. He'd had an abusive childhood besides being such a genius that he felt isolated from his age peers.

The faculty took him under their wing, especially the math and science departments. He was included in some research projects they were doing, as an assistant researcher, not as a guinea pig in any experiments. He also met regularly with therapists. He gradually transformed into a better adjusted person.

Last I heard, he was a professor of advanced mathematics at a SUNY college that does science and math research. They hired him without an MA or PhD because of his genius mind. He is also married now.

I have since learned that some of his mannerisms and behaviors are symptomatic of what used to be called Asperger's Syndrome. Now they are grouped together with a blanket diagnosis of autism. His brilliance in abstraction, combined with childhood abuse, had left him with little grounding in the empirical world of everyday reality. The faculty nurtured him in personal development and gave him a socially accepted outlet and expression for his brilliance, which gave him a place in life based on his intellectual gift.

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Yikes! yellow dahlia Thursday #1
The MK ULTRA program was designed to observe the unsuspecting MagickMuffin Thursday #2
What, exactly, was the CIA hoping to discover? Baitball Blogger Friday #14
Supposedly for interrogation, but really for creating and controlling assassins. Kid Berwyn Friday #21
Wow 😳 MustLoveBeagles Thursday #3
Wow.... just WOW. Talitha Thursday #4
I don't know if it's true, but I've read many times Haggard Celine Thursday #5
Countless troops got to watch above ground nuke testing. eggplant Thursday #7
I haven't read the manifesto but wonder how accurate have been his predictions. CoopersDad Thursday #6
Kaczynski murdered 3 people and injured 23 others between 1978 and 1995 bigtree Friday #10
I'm more interested in the complete lack of punishment for the apparatus that created him lostnfound Friday #12
there's no evidence that LSD and belittling him 'created him' bigtree Friday #13
Silly little experiments? No way. lostnfound Friday #15
he didn't believe he was 'tortured' bigtree Friday #18
Yeah, it's real funny MorbidButterflyTat Friday #29
you can come to any conclusion you want of you project enough of what you want into it bigtree Friday #32
All good points. yellow dahlia Friday #27
So the CIA takes a 16 year old kid (not yet an adult) wnylib Friday #23
they didn't 'take him' bigtree Friday #26
What a bizarre sense of humor. wnylib Friday #34
the humor is directed at the absurdity of transposing all or even any of that on this terrorist bigtree Friday #37
OK. I'll take the critique of the analogy between wnylib Friday #42
did they really give him LSD, or is that just included in the report bigtree Friday #43
I thought your letter to the editor was good and totally valid lostnfound Friday #36
I was relatively young bigtree Friday #38
Absolutely. It was nauseating that psychos could get interviews on TV but do-gooders and victims never did lostnfound 7 hrs ago #44
That's obviously the CIA's fault and done on purpose. Blue Full Moon Friday #22
nonsense. Apparently, it also caused Kaczynski to earn his doctorate degree from U of Michigan bigtree Friday #24
Unethical human experimentation in the United States blue-wave Thursday #8
Wow that's shocking in scope lostnfound Friday #9
Kaczynski himself said the experiments had no significant effect on the course of [his] life" bigtree Friday #11
How the h*** would he know, he was mentally ill? Nt lostnfound Friday #16
lol. I'd reason every person who is driven to attack or kill someone is mentally ill to some degree bigtree Friday #17
No problem with LSD. My shock was learning that a weird fringe program and weird fringe criminal had a nexus. lostnfound Friday #33
and at the ripe old age of 16!!!!!! a kennedy 7 hrs ago #45
Unabomber Decoded: Did Harvard Study Fuel Rage? Goonch Friday #19
from your article bigtree Friday #25
Oh! Of course! MorbidButterflyTat Friday #30
blaming that study for his unibombing is really something bigtree Friday #31
My view of it is a bit more subtle than thinking he was triggered decades later lostnfound Friday #41
Uncle Sam did evil things to children with radiation. Kid Berwyn Friday #20
bullying always bad. + amerikkka elected the worst bully. pansypoo53219 Friday #28
Accomplices to murder? n/t returnee Friday #35
Whitey Bulger, also. Mc Mike Friday #39
This was prolonged child abuse. delisen Friday #40
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