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yellow dahlia

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27. All good points.

Fri Apr 17, 2026, 01:52 PM

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Nature and nurture both matter. The variables of experience and input matter. The vulnerability of development is one of those variables.

Monsters are created every day, by their "upbringing".

The discussion of contributing factors, and ultimate fault, and the choice to do bad things is an ongoing one.

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CIA CHILD ABUSE circa 1959: Ted Kaczynski was a 3 year victim of MK Ultra starting at age 17 [View all] lostnfound Thursday OP

Yikes! yellow dahlia Thursday #1

The MK ULTRA program was designed to observe the unsuspecting MagickMuffin Thursday #2

What, exactly, was the CIA hoping to discover? Baitball Blogger 18 hrs ago #14

Supposedly for interrogation, but really for creating and controlling assassins. Kid Berwyn 15 hrs ago #21

Wow 😳 MustLoveBeagles Thursday #3

Wow.... just WOW. Talitha Thursday #4

I don't know if it's true, but I've read many times Haggard Celine Thursday #5

Countless troops got to watch above ground nuke testing. eggplant Thursday #7

I haven't read the manifesto but wonder how accurate have been his predictions. CoopersDad Thursday #6

Kaczynski murdered 3 people and injured 23 others between 1978 and 1995 bigtree 19 hrs ago #10

I'm more interested in the complete lack of punishment for the apparatus that created him lostnfound 19 hrs ago #12

there's no evidence that LSD and belittling him 'created him' bigtree 18 hrs ago #13

Silly little experiments? No way. lostnfound 17 hrs ago #15

he didn't believe he was 'tortured' bigtree 17 hrs ago #18

Yeah, it's real funny MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #29

you can come to any conclusion you want of you project enough of what you want into it bigtree 14 hrs ago #32

All good points. yellow dahlia 14 hrs ago #27

So the CIA takes a 16 year old kid (not yet an adult) wnylib 15 hrs ago #23

they didn't 'take him' bigtree 14 hrs ago #26

What a bizarre sense of humor. wnylib 13 hrs ago #34

the humor is directed at the absurdity of transposing all or even any of that on this terrorist bigtree 12 hrs ago #37

OK. I'll take the critique of the analogy between wnylib 11 hrs ago #42

did they really give him LSD, or is that just included in the report bigtree 11 hrs ago #43

I thought your letter to the editor was good and totally valid lostnfound 12 hrs ago #36

I was relatively young bigtree 12 hrs ago #38

That's obviously the CIA's fault and done on purpose. Blue Full Moon 15 hrs ago #22

nonsense. Apparently, it also caused Kaczynski to earn his doctorate degree from U of Michigan bigtree 15 hrs ago #24

Unethical human experimentation in the United States blue-wave Thursday #8

Wow that's shocking in scope lostnfound Yesterday #9

Kaczynski himself said the experiments had no significant effect on the course of [his] life" bigtree 19 hrs ago #11

How the h*** would he know, he was mentally ill? Nt lostnfound 17 hrs ago #16

lol. I'd reason every person who is driven to attack or kill someone is mentally ill to some degree bigtree 17 hrs ago #17

No problem with LSD. My shock was learning that a weird fringe program and weird fringe criminal had a nexus. lostnfound 13 hrs ago #33

Unabomber Decoded: Did Harvard Study Fuel Rage? Goonch 16 hrs ago #19

from your article bigtree 15 hrs ago #25

Oh! Of course! MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #30

blaming that study for his unibombing is really something bigtree 14 hrs ago #31

My view of it is a bit more subtle than thinking he was triggered decades later lostnfound 12 hrs ago #41

Uncle Sam did evil things to children with radiation. Kid Berwyn 15 hrs ago #20

bullying always bad. + amerikkka elected the worst bully. pansypoo53219 14 hrs ago #28

Accomplices to murder? n/t returnee 12 hrs ago #35

Whitey Bulger, also. Mc Mike 12 hrs ago #39

His was pronged child abuse. delisen 12 hrs ago #40