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Bluetus

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59. I'm not offended, but that sounds pretty quixotic to me

Reply to questionseverything (Reply #50)

Tue May 19, 2026, 03:38 PM

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The opacity is intentional. Power does not give up power voluntarily.

I'm not against advocating for more transparency. But we have an election already underway right now. How do we know that Musk and Trump are not using these same tactics to rig the primaries. I have no reason to believe that is happening, other than the fact that they boasted of doing this with regard to the 2024 Presidential election, BEFORE, DURING, and AFTER the election. So we most certainly should not rule out the continued use of what worked before. Republicans always over-reach.

We can debate the merits of a focus on exposing the facts versus establishing new transparency las (which will likely be ignored), but at this point I'd welcome ANY action on this front. AFAIK, it has been completely ignored but 100% of the DNC and party establishment.

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Elon Musk's Ex, Ashley St. Clair, Confirms He Rigged the 2024 Election [View all] liberalla Yesterday OP

Another lie from this substack EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #1

So, you're saying conclusively DV1 Yesterday #4

Based on all the available evidence no it wasn't EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #7

So your asking them to prove a negative? paleotn Yesterday #15

This. Straight generic nonpartisan logic. Permanut 21 hrs ago #77

I so wish it were Miguelito Loveless Yesterday #28

They seem to throw around the word "rigged" a lot to garner attention ToxMarz Yesterday #11

That's a really weird miss-statement of what Cambridge Analytica did. Scrivener7 Yesterday #57

No it isn't EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #60

Yes it is. Scrivener7 Yesterday #62

Nothing in there about changing cast votes EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #63

Your argument was that all they did was "persuade people to vote for Trump." Scrivener7 Yesterday #64

To me, "rigging" implies messing with the vote count, not spreading/targeting ads/propaganda/lies. CrispyQ 9 hrs ago #102

I'm not sure who among us could withstand it if we were selected without our permission Scrivener7 8 hrs ago #103

I don't know anything about psy-ops CrispyQ 8 hrs ago #107

They also targeted Bernie supporters and weak Democrats to cement their decisions not to vote for Hillary. Scrivener7 6 hrs ago #114

Two can play that game...if we would. Why don't we? -nt CrispyQ 5 hrs ago #116

Because Zuckerberg allowed them access to every American Facebook account, but he Scrivener7 2 hrs ago #119

Who claimed votes were changed? live love laugh 13 hrs ago #79

That's what the people claiming the original video was proving when they say righed EdmondDantes_ 10 hrs ago #86

Trump and Musk already admitted so this is conformation. Blue Full Moon Yesterday #66

And trump telling his audiences that they didn't need to show up to vote? BComplex 14 hrs ago #78

It's complicated, but first tRUMP is a moron who says all kinds of stupid crap to mess with people LymphocyteLover 9 hrs ago #98

Yes. ALSO promoting the rigged election idea is a way to make voters apathetic because they think LymphocyteLover 9 hrs ago #97

Obama said, " We have to come out in numbers so big, there's no doubt " questionseverything 8 hrs ago #104

Conspiracy theories targeting MAGA is perfect Johonny Yesterday #2

BlueAnon RetiredParatrooper Yesterday #3

American citizens overseeing their own vote count is what the founders questionseverything Yesterday #51

Ah yes - the "swarm". yellow dahlia 10 hrs ago #84

Bull. Lies. Nonsense. Please delete. mr715 Yesterday #5

Yeah, how dare anyone think Trump & Co would do something underhanded! 31st Street Bridge Yesterday #52

Implicitly accusing both Biden and Harris of ineptitude and/or malevolence mr715 Yesterday #54

No one is accusing Biden or Harris of anything. yellow dahlia 10 hrs ago #85

Because it's the logical conclusion from the election was stolen EdmondDantes_ 2 hrs ago #120

Your logic is not rigorous. yellow dahlia 2 hrs ago #121

And yet you didn't offer any other conclusions EdmondDantes_ 9 min ago #123

I made my conclusions in my previous comments. yellow dahlia 3 min ago #124

Dems/some group need to subpoena her and obtain a bench warrant for all the real time texts she got from Musk. ancianita Yesterday #6

AND an order to take custody of all the ballots in all of the voting locations that showed the vote-flipping pattern. Bluetus Yesterday #37

K & R bookmarking FakeNoose Yesterday #8

Don't be gullible. This is how THEY act when THEY lose. FascismIsDeath Yesterday #9

More bullshit for This Will Hold Wiz Imp Yesterday #10

AMEN! ancianita Yesterday #17

I'm Certain This Is Accurate ProfessorGAC Yesterday #12

And the other half is not suprised. ananda Yesterday #13

The addiction to these conspiracy theories is really quite pathetic. tritsofme Yesterday #14

Conspiracy 'theories" can become investigations, which can then become allegations, and/or filed charges. There is ancianita Yesterday #18

Believing a theory a priori because it makes you feel good mr715 Yesterday #19

It isn't just the believing that makes them so. Belief based on what's probable can, through effort, change a "theory', ancianita Yesterday #25

I guess I distinguish between "belief" and "believing" mr715 Yesterday #31

I can't speak for anyone else, but nothing about this scenario makes me feel good. yellow dahlia 10 hrs ago #87

And what's the difference given those both have the same corroboration? EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #23

I hear you. ancianita Yesterday #27

The Starlink Conspiracy Theory was debunked long ago Wiz Imp Yesterday #49

The people who continue to deny this operation occurred have no clue about the technical issues involved Bluetus Yesterday #40

Musk's Starlink Was Not Connected to Vote Tabulation Wiz Imp Yesterday #47

Jeeze, not this shit again. Starlink is just an ISP.... reACTIONary 13 hrs ago #81

Incorrect. ancianita 7 hrs ago #110

Jeeze, not this bullshit again redux.... reACTIONary 6 hrs ago #115

Sure, it's not like the government is hiding flying saucers from the public. Kid Berwyn Yesterday #21

It is discouraging that so many people here are in such deep denial Bluetus Yesterday #43

If the theft-deniers refuse to recognize what may happen, they make it easier for it to happen... yellow dahlia 10 hrs ago #89

They will always do whatever is necessary to reach their goal. yellow dahlia 10 hrs ago #88

Wasting precious time ... littlemissmartypants Yesterday #45

Maybe I'm missing something, but all that story says is that Musk knew the results of the election earlier than he Fil1957 Yesterday #16

If musk knew the vote early he was tampering with the election and was into the Central Tabulators and the Botany Yesterday #24

Coincidentally, the internet shut down for hours across states in months running up to Nov 2024. More than one source ancianita Yesterday #30

It is a detriment to a fair and accurate election, when people refuse to question that which defies logic. yellow dahlia 10 hrs ago #90

O.K. which one of these things is wrong? Botany Yesterday #20

Where is the evidence beyond vibes? mr715 Yesterday #22

Almost every one of those points can be .. Botany Yesterday #33

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #38

Authentic Frontier Gibberish Botany Yesterday #67

Love the plausible timeline. But is there a credible link to make the timeline credible? Here's what DTC Starlink is ancianita Yesterday #34

Also, lasers have fuck-all to do with Starlink's potential to interfere with voting machines. LudwigPastorius Yesterday #35

Of course not. It's was an EXAMPLE of an impossible to prove conspiracy theory. The Starlink connection is through ancianita Yesterday #65

This was not about the voting machines but about the tabulators which had firmware patches placed .. Botany 5 hrs ago #117

*sigh* LudwigPastorius 1 hr ago #122

it's not that anything is wrong there but there's simply no mechanism or proof that votes were changed there LymphocyteLover 9 hrs ago #99

I will graciously accept apologies from people who accused me Bluetus Yesterday #26

All federal election material, by law has to be kept 22 months questionseverything Yesterday #29

Have you noticed that neither Musk nor Trump care about any laws? Bluetus Yesterday #36

Have you noticed neither of them are able to chew gum mr715 Yesterday #41

No, I have not noticed that about Musk. Bluetus Yesterday #58

In my county in Illinois I can do a foia and look at the ballots for the last questionseverything Yesterday #42

Absolutely. Even if it isn't explicitly allowed by law Bluetus Yesterday #46

Please don't be offended but I think we spend too much time trying to figure out "how " questionseverything Yesterday #50

I'm not offended, but that sounds pretty quixotic to me Bluetus Yesterday #59

Hand counting paper ballots greatly reduces the chance of hacking questionseverything Yesterday #69

That will be a tough sell Bluetus 23 hrs ago #74

Maybe a compromise could be only hand counting the top two races? questionseverything 21 hrs ago #76

I don't think people will accept such a delay Bluetus 13 hrs ago #80

How long a hand count takes depends on the size of the precinct questionseverything 12 hrs ago #82

It greatly increases the chance of inaccurate counts EdmondDantes_ 8 hrs ago #105

I'm talking small precincts counted by hand ( start with top two federal races) questionseverything 8 hrs ago #106

I have evidence, you have a gut feeling EdmondDantes_ 5 hrs ago #118

Here are the questions I asked questionseverything. yellow dahlia 10 hrs ago #94

Hhmmm. Could someone organize folks in the important counties to do FOIA requests? yellow dahlia 10 hrs ago #93

It doesn't hurt to ask and if nothing else it would identify which election authorities were transparent and which aren' questionseverything 9 hrs ago #101

If I could identify the counties that matter with some research, yellow dahlia 8 hrs ago #108

Wisconsin jumps to mind, not because they are the most corrupt questionseverything 7 hrs ago #111

Pick one, wether it's one county or one town or one precinct questionseverything 6 hrs ago #112

I'm glad some of us are paying attention. yellow dahlia 6 hrs ago #113

So there's still time...in theory. yellow dahlia 10 hrs ago #92

And as I said when Bluetus posted that information, B.See 23 hrs ago #73

Thank you for this succinct summary and explanation. yellow dahlia 10 hrs ago #91

This is just embarrassing. LudwigPastorius Yesterday #32

I'm not a big believer in this particular theory. BannonsLiver Yesterday #39

lol, is probably good enough? questionseverything Yesterday #44

Sounds great. BannonsLiver Yesterday #71

No one has to change the tabulator, just to change what the spreadsheet reports questionseverything 23 hrs ago #72

Abracadabra! danieljsf Yesterday #48

Ashley obnoxiousdrunk Yesterday #53

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #55

Down-ballot Discrepancies LessAspin Yesterday #56

Find 11,780 Votes LessAspin Yesterday #61

This should be an op, very well put together questionseverything 21 hrs ago #75

I second that motion. yellow dahlia 9 hrs ago #96

Hear! Hear! I say it is harder to make the rigging work when there is a mandate. yellow dahlia 9 hrs ago #95

De rec this CT bollocks (& an attack on Biden, Harris, & Blue state leaders) from BlueAnon loons at This Will Hold Celerity Yesterday #68

Ashley St. Clair was a RW grifter until her money spigot got shut off. Seeking Serenity Yesterday #70

I take away the positive call to action - we can DO something. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #83

Musk is an unrepentant LIAR and I'm not surprised he'd tell someone something like this. AStern 9 hrs ago #100

Lock him up Trueblue1968 8 hrs ago #109