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Xithras

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10. Because everyone of any consequence in Germany was a Nazi.
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 04:31 PM
Jan 2013

Nazi Germany was a lot like the USSR. It wasn't just military types in the party. If you wanted to be a mailman, a teacher, an actor, a newspaper reporter, or hold pretty much any other job that was either government funded, or exerted some sort of social influence on the people, you were essentially required to join the Nazi Party. Countless Germans signed the cards and became "Nazi's" simply because it was the only way they could keep their jobs. If you're a first grade teacher in rural Bavaria, and the local party head walks in and says that you're going to be fired and banned from teaching if you don't sign the membership card and take the oath, a lot of people will just cave and do it.

When the Soviets took over East Germany, countless academics and other "paper Nazi's" fled west to escape them. It had been less than 15 years since the Soviet Union had completed its last Great Purge and killed thousands of its OWN academics, and deported tens of thousands more to the gulags. They knew that, as German academics, they faced an even grimmer fate. So they fled. Most just ended up in West Germany, but many fled the country entirely. Because the rest of Europe didn't want anything to do with Germans at the time, they ended up here in the U.S.

This is also why a general amnesty was granted to Germans who had been members of the party, if they had not personally profited from it, been involved in its leadership or administration, or worked for its military.

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Were all these Germans really Nazis? MightyMopar Jan 2013 #1
probuably in that tbey were members of the party though that may have been to avoid being killed loli phabay Jan 2013 #4
That actually did happen, btw. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #39
A lot of NAZI Party members really were NAZIs. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #52
That, too, is true, sadly. n/t AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #53
I'd say most are in the grave. ileus Jan 2013 #2
Our Germans were better than their Germans. tritsofme Jan 2013 #3
i;ve always been creeped out by how many samsingh Jan 2013 #5
I volunteer taught ESL to Russian speakers. Igel Jan 2013 #9
that's disgusting samsingh Jan 2013 #14
you act like everyone who joined the party was coerced. not the case. and the moral case HiPointDem Jan 2013 #15
kick samsingh Jan 2013 #42
Did you ever live in Germany or Austria? JDPriestly Jan 2013 #54
and become repug politiations... movonne Jan 2013 #31
So we could win the moon race. nt jmg257 Jan 2013 #6
Because they had special skills, e.g. Wernher von Braun. nt jody Jan 2013 #7
Agree. Bringing in Nazi scientists would have been advantageous at the time, Dash87 Jan 2013 #11
and put them to work in Big Pharma No Compromise Jan 2013 #43
We've known about Operation Paperclip for over 40 years, and they're still covering up the details? leveymg Jan 2013 #8
Because everyone of any consequence in Germany was a Nazi. Xithras Jan 2013 #10
But there are also many former prison guards and real Nazis sabrina 1 Jan 2013 #12
What do you know of Wernher von Braun and his team of scientists, or the Gehlen Group?.... OldDem2012 Jan 2013 #16
I have been reading a lot of history about Germany under Hitler sabrina 1 Jan 2013 #20
Thanks for you post. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #55
Roots of the modern repug party. Arctic Dave Jan 2013 #13
Friends of Prescott Bush....n/t monmouth3 Jan 2013 #17
They are dead now. nt OldEurope Jan 2013 #18
No they are not all dead, some are still around. Not to mention that sabrina 1 Jan 2013 #21
Exactly, Sabrina1. The people who tried to overthrow FDR in 1933 had kids. Octafish Jan 2013 #23
Yes, very staunch in their beliefs and politics. Still very much "Master Race" ideology. Fla Dem Jan 2013 #46
yes, they still have the money, they put people in positions of power No Compromise Jan 2013 #49
I'll go with "dead", at least for most of them. 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #19
. Rex Jan 2013 #40
Went back to Wall Street and the Military-Industrial Complex. Octafish Jan 2013 #22
This is kinda sorta old news OmahaBlueDog Jan 2013 #24
Not old news to many, many Americans. woo me with science Jan 2013 #26
Sorry - I forget that having a family member in the National Archives has advantages OmahaBlueDog Jan 2013 #33
Great work by the NYT Cliff Arnebeck Jan 2013 #25
I would say most are dead now. rl6214 Jan 2013 #27
Weirner Von Braun brought his people over to work on missles for the U.S. Nazi propagandist ladjf Jan 2013 #28
Transnational "Security Specialists" in service to Multinational Corporate Overlords. ~nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #29
Most of them were scientists and people who had worked Warpy Jan 2013 #30
I knew one. DollarBillHines Jan 2013 #32
Cool story Bro! zappaman Jan 2013 #35
I worked for one. He was a nice guy and understood the history very well. Coyotl Jan 2013 #34
is this the same as the tea party today?... No Compromise Jan 2013 #36
No. Coyotl Jan 2013 #37
Well, personally I'm glad Werner von Braun worked for us instead of Stalin (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #38
My mother is from Nuremberg. Claybrains Jan 2013 #41
Almost all, if not all, would be dead by now. Marrah_G Jan 2013 #44
One of my grandparents friends may have been a Nazi Nikia Jan 2013 #45
Wasn't this called Operation Paperclip? ellie Jan 2013 #47
Google MK Ultra B2G Jan 2013 #48
MK Ultra is where they would be, yes No Compromise Jan 2013 #50
why? cuz we didn't want the Soviets to get them when they swooped into Germany librechik Jan 2013 #51
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