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In reply to the discussion: What did Alex Jones say last night? I am really curious... [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(106,360 posts)36. "1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms"
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/07/us/piers-morgan-guns-debate/index.html
He said it's the global banks that are plotting to take away American guns. He offered to box Morgan. He screamed almost continuously, and, even when Morgan let him go on and on, and he finally came to an end, and he replied 'yes' to Morgan's "are you finished?", he then interrupted Morgan's next question and started ranting again.
Here's the context:
The reality of British violent crime, from the Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW):
If you started this thread to get us to agree that Alex Jones is a lying sociopath, then we'll gladly agree with that.
He said it's the global banks that are plotting to take away American guns. He offered to box Morgan. He screamed almost continuously, and, even when Morgan let him go on and on, and he finally came to an end, and he replied 'yes' to Morgan's "are you finished?", he then interrupted Morgan's next question and started ranting again.
Here's the context:
The answer is -- wait a minute, I have FBI crime statistics that come out of a year late, 2011, 20-plus percent crime drop in the last nine years, real violent crime because more guns means less crime. Britain took the guns 15, 16 years ago. Tripling of your overall violent crime. True, we have a higher gun violence level, but overall, muggings, stabbing, deaths -- those men raped that woman to India to death with an iron rod 4 feet long. You can't ban the iron rods. The guns, the iron rods, Piers, didn't do it, the tyrants did it. Hitler took the guns Stalin took the guns, Mao took the guns, Fidel Castro took the guns, Hugo Chavez took the guns, and I'm here to tell you, 1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms! It doesn't matter how many lemmings you get out there in the street begging for them to have their guns taken. We will not relinquish them. Do you understand?
The reality of British violent crime, from the Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW):
Figure 4 shows increases in the number of violent incidents from the early eighties to 1995. This was
followed by a period of steep decreases, with the latest estimates being 17 per cent lower than those
observed from the 2006/07 survey, and 51 per cent lower than in 1995. The CSEW estimated 3 in
every 100 adults were a victim of violent crime according to the 2011/12 survey, compared with 5 in
100 adults in 1995.
Although overall CSEW violence showed no statistically significant change since the previous year
the sub-category of violence with injury decreased by 15 per cent compared with 2010/11. However,
recent trends in violence with injury have been flat, and this fall represents a return to levels of the
2009/10 survey after higher estimates from the 2010/11 survey.
The level of violence against the person recorded by the police in 2011/12 showed a 7 per cent fall,
compared with the previous year (Tables 6a and 6b). Violence with and without injury decreased
by 8 per cent and 6 per cent respectively. This is consistent with the downward trend seen since
2006/07. The latest levels of violence against the person have fallen by 27 per cent from 2006/07,
and 10 per cent from 2002/03.
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/dcp171778_273169.pdf
followed by a period of steep decreases, with the latest estimates being 17 per cent lower than those
observed from the 2006/07 survey, and 51 per cent lower than in 1995. The CSEW estimated 3 in
every 100 adults were a victim of violent crime according to the 2011/12 survey, compared with 5 in
100 adults in 1995.
Although overall CSEW violence showed no statistically significant change since the previous year
the sub-category of violence with injury decreased by 15 per cent compared with 2010/11. However,
recent trends in violence with injury have been flat, and this fall represents a return to levels of the
2009/10 survey after higher estimates from the 2010/11 survey.
The level of violence against the person recorded by the police in 2011/12 showed a 7 per cent fall,
compared with the previous year (Tables 6a and 6b). Violence with and without injury decreased
by 8 per cent and 6 per cent respectively. This is consistent with the downward trend seen since
2006/07. The latest levels of violence against the person have fallen by 27 per cent from 2006/07,
and 10 per cent from 2002/03.
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/dcp171778_273169.pdf
If you started this thread to get us to agree that Alex Jones is a lying sociopath, then we'll gladly agree with that.
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I can't watch the video, why is everyone so irrationally angry about this?
No Compromise
Jan 2013
#37
Who can say what he said? It was all yelling and raving non-sense. And you are
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2013
#40
Well the interview pretty much descended into 9/11 truther arguments, so theres that.
Erose999
Jan 2013
#2
have you seen a video of how the building came down? Does the media show it?
No Compromise
Jan 2013
#38
God, I Love It When Posters Divulge Things That They Should Have Kept To Themselves....
Paladin
Jan 2013
#62
Here's the full interview on youtube. Jones is still ranting when they cut him off. I wouldn't be
Erose999
Jan 2013
#3
Holy shit my brain hurts. He sounds like a goddamn imbecile. I despise the corporate media as much
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jan 2013
#35
Being condescending is really the only way to handle a dick jerky like Jones. Jones will just rant
Erose999
Jan 2013
#41
I find that pretty amusing too, we need to shake up the morons on Corporate media
No Compromise
Jan 2013
#45
he was screechy and unhinged and hannity would say - "im a screaming flailing jackass" screams alex
leftyohiolib
Jan 2013
#12
bashing with no facts - that's the interview he's was all blabber and no facts
leftyohiolib
Jan 2013
#24
Remember how he delivered that gem? Stark raving lunatic fashion, with fire in his eyes
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2013
#42
Why do you continue to make a fool of yourself by shilling for this shyster? You have
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2013
#20
He's a fucking idiot. Hugo Chavez hasn't taken any guns and their violent crime rates are through
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jan 2013
#28
Before I turned it off, he asked how many monkey's can dance on the head of a pin.
CrispyQ
Jan 2013
#46
Go to the front page of DU where there are video clips. You will see Piers and Jones in
southernyankeebelle
Jan 2013
#53
I thought that was supposed to be satire. It just seems like an accurate
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jan 2013
#61
I think it's uncanny. He's got real talent. It really gives you a feel of what AJ is all about.
Democracyinkind
Jan 2013
#68
He sceamed, he ranted, he raved, he could not answer 1 question, he shuffled papers, he spewed
appleannie1
Jan 2013
#57
He sounds like he was giving a right winger a hard time, that is why I am laughing about this
No Compromise
Jan 2013
#60
I think the term you are looking to describe what Jones said would be "Word Salad."
TheMightyFavog
Jan 2013
#64
He is one crazy son of a bitch, to think he can carry a gun is scarry. My younger brother listens
doc03
Jan 2013
#65
Limbaugh and Beck are total crackpots as well, yet they get air time in prime time
No Compromise
Jan 2013
#75