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96. Old Testament

Thu Dec 15, 2011, 12:15 PM

Dec 2011

The actual sin/transgression involved is the refusal of a man to impregnate his dead brother's wife.

Yes, really.

In the ancient Hebrew social system, women with no sons had no standing in the family. If a man died and left his wife with no children, it was customary for the man's closest male relative to impregnate the widow.

Any children would then be considered heirs of the dead son, and his widow would have all the rights of a daughter in law.

Onan refused to impregnate his brother's wife because he wanted all the family property for himself. Didn't want to create a nephew who would have rights to some of it. So he pulled out early and spilled his seed on the ground. G-d was not pleased at his selfishness.

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