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(1,277 posts) Sun Jan 13, 2013, 12:36 AM Jan 2013

what are your feelings of a church bringing in activites to teach Character ed in public schools [View all]

http://252blog.com/2012/06/27/its-a-kidzworld-at-newspring-church/

Dan Kubish is the Children’s Pastor at NewSpring Church in Wichita, Kansas, where he has been on staff for 18 years. Dan and his wife Debbie have 5 children who are all active in the ministry at NewSpring with them. Here’s the story of the impact his team is making on their community. Learn more at http://kidzworldgang.com/

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In the fall of 2010, the KidzWorld staff at NewSpring Church in Wichita, Kan., dreamed about partnering with public schools in a way that would provide a positive impact for the administration, teachers and students. A couple of small opportunities arose as their team provided balloon animals for carnivals and even sponsored a ventriloquist program on bullying for one school.

One of their team members, who was highly involved in one elementary school, suggested to the principal that the team would love to present a high energy program designed to teach values—called them Big Ideas—to students. After further discussion with the principal at Seltzer Elementary, the first KidzWorld Gang assembly was scheduled at the school for February 2011.
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what are your feelings of a church bringing in activites to teach Character ed in public schools [View all] sad-cafe Jan 2013 OP

I am against it. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #1

I don't see where they make any reference to religion sad-cafe Jan 2013 #2

Organized religion Le Taz Hot Jan 2013 #35

My thoughts exactly! LeftofObama Jan 2013 #39

For starters, you're assuming that this is a fundamentalist church... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #62

Agreed TM99 Jan 2013 #43

Excellent post obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #46

no shit fascisthunter Jan 2013 #70

Are you familiar with Unitarians? Buddhists? Sikhs? KittyWampus Jan 2013 #80

I still don't think it is a good idea. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #91

It depends on the content of their presentation. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #3

teachers are always looking to bring things like this to the fore-front sad-cafe Jan 2013 #4

Religous organizations are.... 99Forever Jan 2013 #66

Uh Oh, They use Core Essentials which sponsors with Chik Fil A. NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #5

Schools are in desperate need of warm and current ways to relate. Bullying is so major and they libdem4life Jan 2013 #6

Well, there are laws in some state(s) that say bullying gays IN SCHOOL djean111 Jan 2013 #67

welcome to DU--I am absolutely opposed to it--churches need to stay the hell away from niyad Jan 2013 #7

Agree. Religion belongs in houses of worship not in public schools. kiranon Jan 2013 #23

In many ways, I do not have a problem with it. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #8

It's a foot in the door, like a door-to-door salesman. I watched my small town destroyed by RKP5637 Jan 2013 #10

It makes you nervous and it should make us all nervous. MuseRider Jan 2013 #72

Bummer. Yet another fundie dipstick. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #78

NO (period). n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #9

No. OswegoAtheist Jan 2013 #11

Churches and Religion, in general RoccoR5955 Jan 2013 #12

A terrible idea! nt ladjf Jan 2013 #13

I would probably point out that John Wesley Hardin's Downwinder Jan 2013 #14

Separation of Church and state must be maintained. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2013 #15

on the surface it looks like a win win situation sad-cafe Jan 2013 #16

I'm fine with this, as long as they let atheistic scientists give the sermon on Sundays Orrex Jan 2013 #17

LOL! Le Taz Hot Jan 2013 #36

. blkmusclmachine Jan 2013 #18

The Good News Club WON in the US Supreme Court (2001) to infiltrate public school property. blkmusclmachine Jan 2013 #20

Shouldn't be on school property, but it is actually harmless duffyduff Jan 2013 #24

That group should not be working in public schools, even after hours. madfloridian Jan 2013 #85

considering what % of the nation's bullies practice their religion, I say no thanks nt msongs Jan 2013 #19

churches have NO PLACE in public schools. none. zip. nada. ziltch. spanone Jan 2013 #21

It may be time for a home school revolution liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #22

now, I found this bit interesting niyad Jan 2013 #25

No. Dawson Leery Jan 2013 #26

Christians do lots of sneaky things to indoctrinate people. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2013 #28

I was subjected to JAMES ROBISON at our school, at an assembly in the gym. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2013 #27

I eagerly await the Muslim values camp cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #29

Hell, no. xfundy Jan 2013 #30

If the school is funded by public money, it shouldn't do anything to establish religion. JDPriestly Jan 2013 #31

"even sponsored a ventriloquist program" musette_sf Jan 2013 #32

NO, bad idea intaglio Jan 2013 #33

Hell no. Nt mzteris Jan 2013 #34

TIME TO TAX THE CHURCHES. nt cbrer Jan 2013 #37

No religious Org or Group should be involved with Public Schools at all stultusporcos Jan 2013 #38

Welcome to DU, stultusporcos! Heidi Jan 2013 #41

Absolutely opposed. THEY do peddle religion in schools. From the blog you linked, Heidi Jan 2013 #40

A you familiar with the story of the Good Samaritan? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #42

I was raised Southern Baptist. Of course I'm familiar with the story. Heidi Jan 2013 #44

You would find it impossible to tell the story of the Good Samaritan without a religious context? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #45

No, I wouldn't find it impossible. But I don't trust a church using a Core Essentials Heidi Jan 2013 #47

And that is the crux of our disagreement. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #56

Yes, because it's part of the New Testament obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #50

ok. we get it. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #57

It's quite apparemt you do not obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #59

Goodbye. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #61

A lot of literature and books and television is based on Biblical stories Nikia Jan 2013 #75

Do you trust a values curriculum funded by Chick Fil A to use that context? Heidi Jan 2013 #79

It's in the New Testament, of course it has a religious context obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #49

And to further refute Buzz Clik, the Good Samaritan parable starts Heidi Jan 2013 #51

I quoted the entirety of the story with no mention of anything religious at all. Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #54

Thanks -- was going to check that, but was doing something obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #55

Ya think? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #52

The point is that it is a religious story obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #58

More insults. Is that helping the discussion along? Buzz Clik Jan 2013 #60

No -- never! obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #48

I'm OK with it Turbineguy Jan 2013 #53

do`t have my glasses on ...did you write benny hinn or hill? madrchsod Jan 2013 #69

Jesus Christ, NO! rurallib Jan 2013 #63

Bring in a Philosopher. Greybnk48 Jan 2013 #64

I highly recommend your post. The complete lack of education regarding philosophy & logic KittyWampus Jan 2013 #81

no! madrchsod Jan 2013 #65

I'm agin' it. Iggo Jan 2013 #68

It'd be a blunder, similar to the Trojans dragging the Greek horse inside the city. VOX Jan 2013 #71

All I need to know is that it involves church and school. . . BigDemVoter Jan 2013 #73

Sorry, keep em out. Separation Jan 2013 #74

I'm against it. City Lights Jan 2013 #76

Churches do not belong in public schools under ANY circumstances. forestpath Jan 2013 #77

No way in hell. ancianita Jan 2013 #82

Only proven atheists should be allowed to teach in public schools. Nye Bevan Jan 2013 #83

I was SO ready to flame you! 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #86

Why haven't churches succeeded in producing citizens with good character? Oilwellian Jan 2013 #84

No No No !!! n/t agracie Jan 2013 #87

No Bjornsdotter Jan 2013 #88

Church out of Schools! Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #89

Teach it at church, not school. nt LiberalEsto Jan 2013 #90