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mindwalker_i

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12. How could the universe HAVE a beginning?

Tue Jan 29, 2013, 05:12 PM

Jan 2013

The only possibility is for something else to exist that is not the universe, and for that somehow to start the universe. It could be some dude with a huge bong who created the universe, or it could just to some effect of the non-universe popping itself into being the universe. Regardless, something other than the universe had to exist. Where did that come from? See, the problem just gets pushed back a level.

Unless, of course, we create God, God creates a universe, which then makes people eventually to make another God. Ad infinitum.

Or maybe it all has to do with butts: a universe eventually makes butts, those butts give birth to a God, that God creates a universe capable of producing butts. That's the theory of the buttiverse, and it has as much validity as any religion.

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Can I share my theory of Everything? [View all] salinen Jan 2013 OP

that is close to the Steady State theory quinnox Jan 2013 #1

Who knows? CoffeeCat Jan 2013 #2

I prefer to believe that the Spirit moved across the waters... kentuck Jan 2013 #3

I can live with that. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #5

Me, too. gateley Jan 2013 #9

I can believe in a cosmic consciousness but... kentuck Jan 2013 #13

If the Universe collapses and re-starts, perhaps everything in it plays out in the exact... randome Jan 2013 #4

Not just the Jehovahs... longship Jan 2013 #6

Looks like physics beat you to it. :) Romulus Quirinus Jan 2013 #7

The further you go, the more philosophy and religion merge... it's all why, why, why? reformist2 Jan 2013 #8

The answer is 43 legaleagle_45 Jan 2013 #10

I think you overstepped it by one. randome Jan 2013 #11

No wonder the mystery of life has eluded me. legaleagle_45 Jan 2013 #20

How could the universe HAVE a beginning? mindwalker_i Jan 2013 #12

Interestingly, there's a physics argument that the universe doesn't exist Recursion Jan 2013 #16

There seems to be a bit of evidence that the universe does exist mindwalker_i Jan 2013 #43

I think you are close. kentuck Jan 2013 #17

My answer is cheese. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #24

The power of Cheese. MissMarple Jan 2013 #31

The universe might be like cheese mindwalker_i Jan 2013 #44

Kant presents that as one arm of the Transcendental Amphiboly Recursion Jan 2013 #14

Given the physics of the universe I'd have to guess that could be true but liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #15

The universe has always been and always will be. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #18

But that leaves no room for debate... kentuck Jan 2013 #19

question everything liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #21

Perhaps as you look nearer to the beginning and the end, time curves like an asymtote Electric Monk Jan 2013 #22

We're inside a black hole in another universe NoOneMan Jan 2013 #23

Don't even get me started on multi-verses! JaneyVee Jan 2013 #25

The entire universe is only a single atom which makes up something even larger. Bandit Jan 2013 #26

Alternatively Bosonic Jan 2013 #27

Time and space are an illusion Cary Jan 2013 #28

Carl Sagan believed the same dtotire Jan 2013 #29

Everything is relative. kentuck Jan 2013 #30

The Universe is orgasmic in nature. randome Jan 2013 #32

But but but everything is rushing apart faster and faster! Warpy Jan 2013 #33

Why do we accept that time goes forward?? kentuck Jan 2013 #34

That's recently been proven Warpy Jan 2013 #35

Yesterday is not tomorrow? kentuck Jan 2013 #37

This universe did have a beginning... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #36

Psssh, don't kid yourself, we're a bunch of holograms. Neoma Jan 2013 #38

This Universe is just a cell which is part of an organ which is part of an organism darkangel218 Jan 2013 #39

And if we are so minute...? kentuck Jan 2013 #40

Huge ideas on our scale. We are far from being huge within the Universe(s) :) darkangel218 Jan 2013 #41

Definitely. kentuck Jan 2013 #42