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In reply to the discussion: The root of all problems with guns [View all]freshwest
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Took 'em to church and read all the stuff about violence being wrong, selfishness was wrong, practicing forgiveness and love and turn the other cheek. No matter what and I'm wondering if you had those talks with him.
But the other issue is you say your kid knows you love him, but I know that my kid loved me very much, thought I was wonderful, smart and right about things. I was the moral guide. Because we cannot just be buddies and pals to our kids, they have those elsewhere. We bring them into this world and it's our duty to teach them how to survive and have the values that will protect them when no one is looking over their shooulders or forcing them to behave. It has to be ingrained, come to their understanding that there is much more important things that having your own way.
You seem to be saying that your kid is all powerful and you are helpless. I was big on building my kid's self-esteem, didn't spank, etc. There were anger problems, but more to a lack of understanding what was expected and wanting approval. I acted with respect and demanded the same, to me and everyone else.
No way would I have permitted my kid to get involved with anyone and hit them, that would be grounding until time to leave home. If that was my kid, he'd've heard he was wrong from the time the sun rose until it set until he agreed to change. You have to do something to let him know that his life will be destroyed if he keeps on this path.
You don't need religion to do it either, we're not religious anymore, but the lessons stayed. No one gets to tell anyone, especially a girlfriend to stay in her place. That's abuse.
Something is seriously wrong with your story here, and I'm almost at the point of thinking you are shining us on. It sounds like you have taken every criticism of liberal child rearing and said you did it, but that's not what you are decribing.
To say that just because you didn't hit him is why he's gone bad, or needs to be terrorized. That's full conservative abuse speak right there. Liberal families I know did not spank, but the children knew that using violence was simply not done. You are painting your child as all powerful, and there is not way that is so.
I'm done I guess, because I'm having trouble believing you here and I'm sorry. Someone else may know better and continue with you. If this is really what is happening and you are this overwhelmed, get help and good luck.