From the beginning, I was against the Iraq War. Most people on this board probably share this view...

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57. Though that is what this is about to you & me. There are others for whom it is ABOUT THE WHOLE

Democratic policy agenda, so all of us will do what we are going to do and what will happen will happen to OPPOSE drone projects and we could STILL end up WITH drone projects and WITHOUT one whole hell of a lot of other human rights besides.

Please remember that the 1% have no political party and address the scenario above HYPOTHETICALLY.

One other thing that is relevant and that I don't often see mentioned is an assumption that is inherent in OP that the people will not change in any fundamentally functional way to deal with drone projects as an essential PART of their WHOLE legislative agenda.

Please do not try to shame me for being pragmatic and "not principled". I assure you that I am a very principled person who wants us to honor our principles RESPONSIBLY within strategically pragmatic processes.

One of the things that HAS been fucking us in EVERY way and will do so again in regard to our opposition to drone programs is ZERO SUM assumptions. That's DIVIDE AND CONQUER. It works every time and we CAN end up WITH drone programs and WITHOUT things like the right to organize, without Single Payer Health Care, without authentic PUBLIC EDUCATION and so very, very much more that, if the value of life means anything anywhere else in the world, it means just as much here in terms of other human rights.