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66. Penetration is the least harmful of a projectiles damage causing potential

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 03:19 PM

Feb 2013

At the risk of going way off here, many other factors lead to the lethality of a round, bullet weight and shape, composition, trajectory, and speed all combine to provide lethality.
it takes aproximately 17-25k PSI to match the energy imparted to a .22LR one of the least lethal rounds out there in terms of terminal ballistics. The abilty of an aprox 5 grain BB to penetrate 3-4 inches is a far cry from a 9x19 parabellum 115Gr dumping aproximately 580-600 joules into a body.

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These people don't give a damn who they hurt with this nonsense. ellisonz Feb 2013 #1

If Colorado thinks they are so dangerous hack89 Feb 2013 #28

Wait for it. Robb Feb 2013 #32

No indication that it will be proposed hack89 Feb 2013 #34

And slaves could just go to Canada! Robb Feb 2013 #36

So why did we see such milquetoast legislation? hack89 Feb 2013 #37

LOL Robb Feb 2013 #46

No - I am amused at people like you that think something significant has happened. hack89 Feb 2013 #51

and if I were a prosecutor in Colorado the very first time a person was killed by one of these dsc Feb 2013 #2

Message auto-removed dizbukhapeter Feb 2013 #4

ask the girl who died at the Giffords shooting no wait you can't dsc Feb 2013 #5

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #8

a bullet that would never have been fired but for that magazine dsc Feb 2013 #9

You're not to be taken seriously DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2013 #7

instant fail. nt. sibelian Feb 2013 #13

nice to see you believe in the rule of law nt. naaman fletcher Feb 2013 #19

Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #21

Possession of high capacity magazines will still be legal hack89 Feb 2013 #31

Can we sue Ford if a drunk driver hits me with an Explorer? N/T bobclark86 Feb 2013 #41

Are you equating legal gun owners with incapacitated drunks? Robb Feb 2013 #45

I'll pick ..... oldhippie Feb 2013 #47

The "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act of 2005" would stop you. N/T GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #69

This post was alerted on. The jury voted 5/1 to let it stand. ohiosmith Feb 2013 #73

Thanks for letting me know. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #74

NP GSC! ohiosmith Feb 2013 #75

So it's "Fuck you, we're gonna let potential murderers to have a higher body count." sakabatou Feb 2013 #3

Is there a grandfather clause in that bill? LAGC Feb 2013 #6

A grandfather clause daybranch Feb 2013 #15

these gun nuts are sick bastards Skittles Feb 2013 #10

+1,000. n/t. apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #14

Do you have a link for this? NaturalHigh Feb 2013 #11

Here, have a link: Spider Jerusalem Feb 2013 #17

Thanks NaturalHigh Feb 2013 #18

Evil assholes BainsBane Feb 2013 #12

How about moondust Feb 2013 #16

I recently saw somewhere that they're using 3-D polymer printing to make such magazines. Gorp Feb 2013 #20

Message auto-removed CharlieVicker Feb 2013 #22

Give it time. They'll find materials that are heat resistant and can still be used for 3-D printing Gorp Feb 2013 #27

Can you make a barrel without metal though? I highly doubt that. From what I've read about 3d Erose999 Feb 2013 #23

There's an implied assumption that powder and metal are involved in the bullet. Gorp Feb 2013 #29

Here is an example of what you're describing. Erose999 Feb 2013 #33

LOL! But where are you going to get the poison dart frogs from? Gorp Feb 2013 #35

I am sure someone in FL has released them into the wild and they're probably all over the Everglades Erose999 Feb 2013 #38

I'd guess the pythons ate all the frogs. Gorp Feb 2013 #40

Thats why they were released, as population control for the pythons. Erose999 Feb 2013 #44

I doubt the poison would affect the pythons. Gorp Feb 2013 #49

a polymer FA pistol? Sounds very much like a Sci Fi/ Hollywood plot creation SQUEE Feb 2013 #26

The technology is here now. It used to require sophisticated molds. Not anymore. Gorp Feb 2013 #30

And it's also been illegal for decades... bobclark86 Feb 2013 #43

Take out the gun powder and replace it with compressed gas of some sort. It's simple. Gorp Feb 2013 #48

No, the problem with plastic is strength oldhippie Feb 2013 #62

Well, I would have to dig out my college text books, but yes, I know the physics. Gorp Feb 2013 #68

I get to see and play with some fairly cutting edge stuff,,, SQUEE Feb 2013 #50

Compressed gas doesn't generate heat - only the friction of the pellet in the barrel. Gorp Feb 2013 #52

Bakelite has been around since the 1930's. If a bakelite barrel would have worked it'd have been Erose999 Feb 2013 #54

Paintball is a good analogy. Same basic idea. But 3-D printing was science fiction until recently. Gorp Feb 2013 #56

Compressed gas has been sought for a long time as an alternative. SQUEE Feb 2013 #57

Yeah, but you don't need that much velocity to penetrate flesh. Gorp Feb 2013 #58

Penetration is the least harmful of a projectiles damage causing potential SQUEE Feb 2013 #66

I'm sorry, but I think you have pretty conclusively ...... oldhippie Feb 2013 #67

Magazine plans are available free, online, for 3-D printers. GreenStormCloud Feb 2013 #71

That's the sort of thing I'm talking about. It won't be long. Gorp Feb 2013 #72

I only hope that they reap what they are so blatantly sowing. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2013 #24

Good. Robb Feb 2013 #25

How can it be dying when no one is proposing to ban what they sell? hack89 Feb 2013 #39

I can't think of a case where someone shouldn't have a high-cap mag but should have a regular one Recursion Feb 2013 #42

This will backfire (pun intended). earthside Feb 2013 #53

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You want people to shoot each other? Light House Feb 2013 #61

$275 apiece? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2013 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author Light House Feb 2013 #63

Ten mags for $275 nt hack89 Feb 2013 #64

Ooops, my bad. Light House Feb 2013 #65

This is just a stunt. I haven't seen 30rd AR mags in stock in a month and half. aikoaiko Feb 2013 #70