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33. Too Much Debt Means the Economy Can’t Grow: Reinhart and Rogoff
Sun Mar 10, 2013, 11:36 AM
Mar 2013

As public debt in advanced countries reaches levels not seen since the end of World War II, there is considerable debate about the urgency of taming deficits with the aim of stabilizing and ultimately reducing debt as a percentage of gross domestic product.
Our empirical research on the history of financial crises and the relationship between growth and public liabilities supports the view that current debt trajectories are a risk to long-term growth and stability, with many advanced economies already reaching or exceeding the important marker of 90 percent of GDP. Nevertheless, many prominent public intellectuals continue to argue that debt phobia is wildly overblown. Countries such as the U.S., Japan and the U.K. aren’t like Greece, nor does the market treat them as such.
Indeed, there is a growing perception that today’s low interest rates for the debt of advanced economies offer a compelling reason to begin another round of massive fiscal stimulus. If Asian nations are spinning off huge excess savings partly as a byproduct of measures that effectively force low- income savers to put their money in bank accounts with low government-imposed interest-rate ceilings -- why not take advantage of the cheap money?
Although we agree that governments must exercise caution in gradually reducing crisis-response spending, we think it would be folly to take comfort in today’s low borrowing costs, much less to interpret them as an “all clear” signal for a further explosion of debt.

http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-14/too-much-debt-means-economy-can-t-grow-commentary-by-reinhart-and-rogoff.html


Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff have spent countless hours studying financial crises and debt bubbles. And unfortunately for those with an upbeat economic forecast, their news is not good. For one thing, they expect growth to remain challenged for a long time, thanks in part to the aftermath of the debt binge of the 2000s. "In the advanced economies, think of trend growth being a percentage point lower for a decade more, possibly even two decades more," says Rogoff, a Harvard economics professor who in 2009 co-authored This Time Is Different, with Reinhart, who teaches about the international financial system at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government. The two recently came to Manhattan, where they had a lively discussion with a Barron's editor. They agree that the proper regulatory framework to prevent another severe crisis is achievable. "But can we stay there?" Reinhart asks. For the answer to that question and many others, read on.

http://online.barrons.com/article/SB50001424052748703961304578128861988425802.html#articleTabs_article%3D1

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More Happy Talk - Only The 1% Are Doing Well - That Was True Before The Market Run Up cantbeserious Mar 2013 #1
You cantbeserious. (Sorry, couldn't help it.) randome Mar 2013 #3
The Economy Has Yet To Replace All The Jobs Lost In 2008 cantbeserious Mar 2013 #8
these numbers reflect gains for more than the 1% bigtree Mar 2013 #4
Cause part of economic growth is the willingness of people to spend nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #6
Walmart - The Store Everyone Hates - Had A Terrible February cantbeserious Mar 2013 #9
maybe it's Walmart's anti-worker stance bigtree Mar 2013 #10
Surely - One Noted That The Payroll Tax Increased by 2% In January - Cause And Effect cantbeserious Mar 2013 #12
gas prices also increased in the same period bigtree Mar 2013 #15
Spending By US Business Is Of Little Relevance - Consumers Make Up 66% Of The US Economy cantbeserious Mar 2013 #16
I didn't mean spending by businesses - spending by consumers IN those businesses bigtree Mar 2013 #20
Walmart's 'terrible February' numbers beat the next three largest retailers gross sales....combined. Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #17
Still Indicates That The Economy Is Struggling cantbeserious Mar 2013 #18
One data point does not a trend make. Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #19
Not Seeing The Trend In The Baltic Dry Index cantbeserious Mar 2013 #44
I thought we were discussing domestic economic matters. Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #45
You Brought Up Shipping = The Baltic Dry Index Is Considered A Bell Weather Shipping Metric cantbeserious Mar 2013 #46
walmart is bigger than the next largest three retailers combined, and more. so no surprise. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #47
Amazing that regular tax payers can take a hit to the wallet iemitsu Mar 2013 #2
Politicians have been purchased jsr Mar 2013 #5
that's what happened (more or less) in the Clinton years bigtree Mar 2013 #7
Dr Doom Predicts Slow Growth Continues cantbeserious Mar 2013 #11
growth, nonetheless bigtree Mar 2013 #13
1% to 2% Growth in the US Economy Does Not Keep Pace With New Workers Looking For Jobs cantbeserious Mar 2013 #14
no one is suggesting that we're where we need to be bigtree Mar 2013 #21
See All Of The Additions To This Thread Below - All Happy Talk All The Time Is Not A Recovery cantbeserious Mar 2013 #26
Too Much Debt Means the Economy Can’t Grow: Reinhart and Rogoff dkf Mar 2013 #33
Wrong - Private Sector Debt Trumps Public Sector Debt By Far - Government Debt Is Not The Problem cantbeserious Mar 2013 #34
Well that is a scary chart. dkf Mar 2013 #36
The Point Is That Public Sector Debt Is Not The Problem As Many Claim cantbeserious Mar 2013 #37
That makes no sense as a counter to the argument that dkf Mar 2013 #40
Don't Be Fooled By Happy Talk cantbeserious Mar 2013 #22
Don't Believe The Happy Talk II cantbeserious Mar 2013 #23
Don't Believe The Happy Talk III - Unemployment rate 14.3% cantbeserious Mar 2013 #24
Don't Believe The Happy Talk IV cantbeserious Mar 2013 #25
The doom and gloom naysayers remind me of a famous LBJ quote graham4anything Mar 2013 #27
Don't Believe The Happy Talk V cantbeserious Mar 2013 #28
Once they limit unemployment benefits to 26 weeks, that will come down. FarCenter Mar 2013 #29
Supposition With No Proof cantbeserious Mar 2013 #30
Well it will be proven or disproven soon enough. dkf Mar 2013 #31
Well, It Is Easy Criticism To Suggest That People Don't Look Because Of Paltry Unemployment Benefits cantbeserious Mar 2013 #32
You could be proven wrong also. dkf Mar 2013 #35
Probably Not Based On The Trends And Reporting To Date cantbeserious Mar 2013 #38
Not collecting unemployment insurance may change the way they answer the interviewer's questions FarCenter Mar 2013 #39
spam much? bigtree Mar 2013 #41
Don't Know To What You Are Referring - Seems I Have Added The Most evidence To This Thread cantbeserious Mar 2013 #42
Don't Believe The Happy Talk VI cantbeserious Mar 2013 #43
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