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In reply to the discussion: They've Burned The Constitution... Why Not The Flag ??? [View all]2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)the police are in the camps and one would have to be stupid to think they are not. So since the police already are very aware of what they are doing, the announcement is more for the people.
I remember when they were planning to shut down a port. I said. "that's stupid," "it's too soon", "they aren't strong enough yet.", "they will fail and then look weak"
But they did call the strike, they did shut down the ports and instead of showing thier weakness, they showed how strong they are. I was wrong.
There has been more than one occasion that I questioned the tactics of some OWS camps. But every single time, they have relieved my fears with their positive words to me.
So when they say "we are going to occupy this building" I think "man thats not a good idea. You will leave the police no choice but to stop you"
But, you see, it's just that which makes this movement work. We older people who have been protesting for years know the police will stop us. We know the shit is coming. So we don't do it. ANd our protest go without media attention and no one knows we are there. So it is just the innocence of some of the protestors, in not seeing how it must surely go, that keeps them standing there defiant. Tenacious. And it has worked.
They wanted that building for the good of the community. I'm sure they saw it as an eyesore that is a blight on the city. THe city doesn't want it. It needs help. The city owns the building. To Occupy, the city owns nothing. It's the peoples building and it should not be standing there rotting when people need it.
So that is part of the why. As to the flag burning...I still suggest provactuers but even if it is true occupiers, I still don't have a problem with it. I would rather not see it burned. But since our govt and Wall Street has been wiping their asses on the flag for so long, and especially once Sarah Palin wrapped herself in one, maybe it does need a good cleaning by fire.
I'm just saying people who are so worried about this minor incident really just need to let it go. It will most likely happen again. Every type of person is part of the 99%. We want no violence but cannot control every move. Every person is responsible for the damage they cause.
And especially in Oakland where the people have been brutalized by the police, repeatedly, I can't judge them wrong for destroying a simple flag made in China being burned. (or for the petty theft of the flag)
Everyone lets the intentions of Occupy go and focuses on this? Not on their feeding the homeless, providing coats for poor, bringing the whole thing to the attention of the world? No, they burned the made in China, flag.