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SoCalDem

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25. The definition of "food"
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 06:52 PM
Mar 2013

SoCalDem (99,089 posts) Mon Sep 3, 2012, 12:02 PM


73. Stuff like this happens because the definition of "food" has changed


I'm sure that corporate lobbyists have spent "brazillions" of dollars ensuring that the definition (for food stamps purposes) has remained "loose".

Grocery stores are vastly different from what they were when food stamps started out.

So is advertising.

The "normal" food-basket USED to contain mostly "building blocks" of food preparation, which were then put together at home to make a meal.

That changed for MOST people... a long time ago.

It's still possible to cook from scratch ( I do it every day), but look at how many people , especially poor people have limited access to adequate, storage, cooking facilities. It's entirely possible that some people with food stamps live in motels, or in someone's garage or spare room...or their car.

The USDA could have (at any time..or many times) changed the criteria of eligibility-of-foods (like WIC), but they have chosen NOT TO DO IT.

Large corporations do not WANT the criteria changed...neither do the grocery store magnates. They want to sell product, and if people find themselves unable to buy the stuff, food stamps bridge the gap when buying food..even if some of it is deemed "unsuitable" by "some people"..

Food stamps are also PURCHASED by poor people..not entirely "GIVEN" to them.

While it might seem "out of line" for a "poor person" to "waste" "our" tax dollars on something "we" think they should not be buying, it's LEGAL for them to buy anything that the rules say it's okay to buy with food stamps. This includes lots of things that are not "good for them" or even "nutritious", but the law calls those things "food"..

99.999999% of people on assistance use their "aid" wisely, but of course, the occasional "oddity" is what gets magnified.

Decades ago (In Indiana), actual FOOD was handed out to poor people.. My friend's Dad worked for the agency that did it. Every month, people lined up and got :

3 boxes of food: (items I remember being in the boxes)

eggs
butter
rice
beans
flour
sugar
cereal
powdered milk
potatoes
onions
pasta
canned soups
canned tomatoes
canned fruit
canned veggies

Of course food stamps (EBT cards) are easier to use since it requires no warehouses to store the stuff, no facility to hand the stuff out, and of course it allows people to choose what they want to buy, but it also transfers the responsibility to buy "good" food.. some will not do it....but most will

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Soda is not healthy. That one is easy. dkf Mar 2013 #1
small government, my ass! williesgirl Mar 2013 #2
They want a small, but very Strict Nanny in control of the state. HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #21
It amazes me how republicans don't want government in our business yet they love getting in our southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #30
Doesn't surprise me a bit. HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #36
you bet and to think they think their are good christains. southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #44
Can you buy infant formula with food stamps? HockeyMom Mar 2013 #3
God, don't give them any ideas. Ed Suspicious Mar 2013 #34
Yes,they should be able to buy it with food stamps HockeyMom Mar 2013 #50
Usually people have WIC for formula Marrah_G Mar 2013 #42
Idaho's has restrictions. Lionessa Mar 2013 #4
Candy but no roasted chicken? narnian60 Mar 2013 #41
I buy prepared from from the deli frequently Ilsa Mar 2013 #49
Well, here shortly I've have to switch to CA food stamps. Hopefully they make more sense. Lionessa Mar 2013 #57
I'm not necessarily opposed to this. Viking12 Mar 2013 #5
Here are the current USDA guidelines.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #10
Thanks for that link Viking12 Mar 2013 #12
"...administratively costly and burdensome." customerserviceguy Mar 2013 #15
well many states, such as Missouri and Nebraska hfojvt Mar 2013 #18
You never pay sales tax when using food stamps CBGLuthier Mar 2013 #51
I understand that Food stamps are now on a debt card, no different from any other card. CK_John Mar 2013 #6
Yep....debit card that gets reloaded every month. But you can't buy prohibited items.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #20
Pot... CurtEastPoint Mar 2013 #7
ugh! how many chins?? ZRT2209 Mar 2013 #38
Do as I say ....not as I do ! lunasun Mar 2013 #52
This! HappyMe Mar 2013 #59
There's something we have to be careful with gollygee Mar 2013 #8
There are plenty of people on this website who would do the same thing. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #9
Feels at times like a majority would. It's sad. (nt) Posteritatis Mar 2013 #16
But at the same time.. madmom Mar 2013 #11
Here's an idea customerserviceguy Mar 2013 #13
I just love me some poor laws. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #14
Step 1. Ruin economy. Step 2, Control people now that they are poor, step 3 The Straight Story Mar 2013 #17
Step 4- this is not a rich/poor issue. Like cigarettes, the proof is there, it's time to sacrifice graham4anything Mar 2013 #28
If you want to live in a society where you are more controlled The Straight Story Mar 2013 #45
Actually, I think North Korea would be akin to the NRA/Cigarette/Drakes companies graham4anything Mar 2013 #46
They think Michelle Obama's cause for healthier eating is policing activity... Initech Mar 2013 #19
I am reminded of this post: snacker Mar 2013 #22
Buying a cake mix would be much cheaper YarnAddict Mar 2013 #58
I get so sick of this kind of thing treestar Mar 2013 #23
This would not only harm the poor it would also harm small businesses Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #24
The definition of "food" SoCalDem Mar 2013 #25
Michigan still hands out foodstuffs... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #33
I would like to see a restriction on what the rich can buy with their money. LiberalFighter Mar 2013 #26
As "public servants" Newest Reality Mar 2013 #27
+1!!!!! forestpath Mar 2013 #31
yes, he can explain again how "offensive" FLOTUS' "let's move" program is, as well ZRT2209 Mar 2013 #37
Good god, they're so oblivious. nt Ed Suspicious Mar 2013 #40
Can I borrow this to put in a letter to Rep Kaufert to hopefully enlighten him to his hypocrisy? Ed Suspicious Mar 2013 #39
This goes hand in hand with drug testing. People should be free to buy whatever food they want! forestpath Mar 2013 #29
call Mayor Bloomberg! No sodas for you! ZRT2209 Mar 2013 #32
I wish my rep, Rep Kaufert would eat shit. That's really what he deserves. n/t Ed Suspicious Mar 2013 #35
Bloomie has disciples everywhere ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #43
are some of the people on this thread doing sarcasm ? olddots Mar 2013 #47
In California, you can buy food Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #48
Nestles, Kraft, Unilever and Pepsi are not going to be shut out by this guy's grandstanding KurtNYC Mar 2013 #53
Know why people buy "junk"? Scootaloo Mar 2013 #54
Right on. nt Ed Suspicious Mar 2013 #55
And that was how this leftist grew up. Scootaloo Mar 2013 #56
when rebulicans can regulate the poor they will.... Evasporque Mar 2013 #60
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