General Discussion

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)

46. Not meaning to dis the Catholic Church, but it's against their interest to promote contraception.

Sun Mar 17, 2013, 07:26 PM

Mar 2013

That would limit the growth of their membership. Awful thing to think, but you have to consider...is there some benefit to that position? A conflict of interest? Criminal investigators consider "who benefits from this murder?" when investigating homicide.

The Church used to have a rule that all babies born to a Catholic parent are required to be babtized Catholic, or the parent would be kicked out of the Church (a fate that devoted Catholics would view as akin to being denied entry into heaven).

They say it's because contraception would interfere with God's will for the creation of a life, but I wonder....I guess the two things aren't opposed to each other. They may view it as God's will for a CATHOLIC baby to be born.

Click here to purchase valentine hearts!

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

66 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

I can actually respect the position of the Catholic Church on abortion. [View all] Nye Bevan Mar 2013 OP

I can't respect their lack of personal and religious boundaries. Warpy Mar 2013 #1

Exactly! nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #26

When was a church... Keefer Mar 2013 #29

Maybe they should be, if they endorse candidates, ballot initiatives, etc. nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #47

It's high time one was Warpy Mar 2013 #59

I am strongly pro-choice, but I do think we tend to deomonize and ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #2

Most "pro-life" people are pro-war and pro-capital punishment. Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author corneliamcgillicutty Mar 2013 #19

Whoa there. I am "PRO-LIFE" in that I believe corneliamcgillicutty Mar 2013 #20

But you must know that, politically, pro-life means abolishing a woman's right to choose. Squinch Mar 2013 #32

My comments are of a personal nature, not political. corneliamcgillicutty Mar 2013 #54

My observation is that many, many, many of them are men Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #37

Maybe... Some also feel it is genuinely murder... Melon_Lord Mar 2013 #45

They are also consistent as they oppose the death penalty loyalsister Mar 2013 #3

Doesn't make their reasoning edhopper Mar 2013 #8

actually they do care about the fetus, in that they will protect an expiring fetus magical thyme Mar 2013 #35

My bad loyalsister Mar 2013 #38

Every sperm is sacred! n/t bitchkitty Mar 2013 #4

The anti-masturbation thing is also ridiculous (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #5

Oh, the humanity! bitchkitty Mar 2013 #6

"Writhing ong the ground?" Keefer Mar 2013 #31

Not writhing for too long. Webster Green Mar 2013 #41

But what about their little spermy souls? Hmmm? n/t bitchkitty Mar 2013 #51

Yea, sin of Onan. You don't read your bible? bitchkitty Mar 2013 #50

I read the Bible every daay... Keefer Mar 2013 #63

The idea that "life" begins at conception edhopper Mar 2013 #7

I believe that it is life. Webster Green Mar 2013 #11

You will notice that I put "life" in quotes edhopper Mar 2013 #25

I completely agree with your point, but still find the semantics important. Webster Green Mar 2013 #28

"Antiquated?" Keefer Mar 2013 #36

Is there a heartbeat at conception? Webster Green Mar 2013 #56

"How else can it be explained? Without a heartbeat, life does not exist." immoderate Mar 2013 #57

Huh? RedCappedBandit Mar 2013 #61

Plants and starfish aren't alive since they don't have heartbeats? Abortions are ok before there is uppityperson Mar 2013 #64

The arguments for edhopper Mar 2013 #66

The Catholic church doesn't believe in recreational sex does it? dkf Mar 2013 #10

No. Webster Green Mar 2013 #12

You can't blame them for inconsistency. dkf Mar 2013 #13

Agreed. Webster Green Mar 2013 #15

That is wrong. The Catholic Church teaches that marital sex is both unitive and procreative. nessa Mar 2013 #44

Damn. Webster Green Mar 2013 #55

LOL If you're truly making up ... no problem. In part, it is a teaching against using people. (nt) nessa Mar 2013 #58

The Vatican opposes enjoyment in life. Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #33

I don't necessarily have a problem with people thinking life begins at conception liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #14

"Laws cannot be written that restrict people's freedom..." Keefer Mar 2013 #48

I agree, sort of, but it's a religious claim, not a medical one RainDog Mar 2013 #16

I don't have a problem with people believing life begins at conception kdmorris Mar 2013 #17

You can be both pro choice and anti-abortion. ananda Mar 2013 #18

I was raised Catholic yet treestar Mar 2013 #21

It doesn't matter what somebody believes snooper2 Mar 2013 #22

You're an anti-zygot. darkangel218 Mar 2013 #23

I don't respect it. Apophis Mar 2013 #24

I believe a women should have the right to have an abortion. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #27

+1 on all points. Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #30

I hope none of your loved ones are ever pregnant, need an abortion to save their lives, forestpath Mar 2013 #34

+1 Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #40

They think even the birth control pill is a form of an abortion. Crazy southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #39

tell it to Savita Halappanavar...oh wait a minute, you can't magical thyme Mar 2013 #42

The Vatican murdered Savita Halappanavar. Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #43

I agree. Their teaching is responsible for murder RainDog Mar 2013 #65

Not meaning to dis the Catholic Church, but it's against their interest to promote contraception. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #46

I can't and don't ismnotwasm Mar 2013 #49

How many people have died? Why Syzygy Mar 2013 #52

A bunch of old men deciding what is right for women? liberal N proud Mar 2013 #53

Restricting women's rights is wrong, whatever nonsensical justifications they use. RedCappedBandit Mar 2013 #60

I am all for the church being against abortion and such The Straight Story Mar 2013 #62